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	<title>Comments on: Enchantment as Methodology</title>
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		<title>By: bobrotenberg</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Yana. This is a good argument for taking sensuous learning in the field seriously. That point cannot be made often enough and you piece illustrates it&#039;s value very well. I must quibble with your reliance on Jane Bennet&#039;s definition however, Whether she acknowledges it or not, her definition is not about enchantment, but rather the sublime sensibility. That&#039;s why, to my reading at least, she fails to rehabilitate the enchantment. The sublime is precisely &quot;a state of wonder &#039;produced by a surprising encounter with something that you did not expect.&#039;&quot; And there is plenty of good research on the sublime that could and should be done, and not just about music. Enchantment, however, will forever accurately refer to that other ontological moment in which the human and superhuman worlds touch and interact, a moment when encounters with spiritual beings, both benevolent and not, as well as with plants and animals of spiritualized natural world, is an accepted and legitimated life event. That such events occurred with a soundtrack of some kind is often reported, You know you entering a sublime sensibility when the music brings on tears, or goosebumps. You know you are in a enchanted moment when the instruments play themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Yana. This is a good argument for taking sensuous learning in the field seriously. That point cannot be made often enough and you piece illustrates it&#8217;s value very well. I must quibble with your reliance on Jane Bennet&#8217;s definition however, Whether she acknowledges it or not, her definition is not about enchantment, but rather the sublime sensibility. That&#8217;s why, to my reading at least, she fails to rehabilitate the enchantment. The sublime is precisely &#8220;a state of wonder &#8216;produced by a surprising encounter with something that you did not expect.'&#8221; And there is plenty of good research on the sublime that could and should be done, and not just about music. Enchantment, however, will forever accurately refer to that other ontological moment in which the human and superhuman worlds touch and interact, a moment when encounters with spiritual beings, both benevolent and not, as well as with plants and animals of spiritualized natural world, is an accepted and legitimated life event. That such events occurred with a soundtrack of some kind is often reported, You know you entering a sublime sensibility when the music brings on tears, or goosebumps. You know you are in a enchanted moment when the instruments play themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 01:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lovely piece. Thanks, Yana, I can feel the music in your writing.

I would, however, take issue with Rogelio’s statement that music has to be felt and cannot be explained. My dissent is based on singing with three groups in Japan, a men’s chorus dedicated to performing the modernist music of Japanese composer Saegusa Shigeaki, an ancient music ensemble, and a local chorus whose members are mostly seventy-plus with a repertoire that spans Japanese children’s songs, American show tunes, classical pops (Verdi), and new music composed by the director. In every case, getting the music to feel right has been an issue. Immense effort is put into getting the tempo, pitch, and rhythms right, but the music is still missing. At this point, the directors do ask the singers to sing with more feeling; but they don’t stop there. There is constant instruction to, for example, sing the notes a bit higher here, loosen the rhythm there, let the body sway....the tweaking continues until music is achieved. Music emerges from a synthesis of analysis and feeling, not feeling alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lovely piece. Thanks, Yana, I can feel the music in your writing.</p>
<p>I would, however, take issue with Rogelio’s statement that music has to be felt and cannot be explained. My dissent is based on singing with three groups in Japan, a men’s chorus dedicated to performing the modernist music of Japanese composer Saegusa Shigeaki, an ancient music ensemble, and a local chorus whose members are mostly seventy-plus with a repertoire that spans Japanese children’s songs, American show tunes, classical pops (Verdi), and new music composed by the director. In every case, getting the music to feel right has been an issue. Immense effort is put into getting the tempo, pitch, and rhythms right, but the music is still missing. At this point, the directors do ask the singers to sing with more feeling; but they don’t stop there. There is constant instruction to, for example, sing the notes a bit higher here, loosen the rhythm there, let the body sway&#8230;.the tweaking continues until music is achieved. Music emerges from a synthesis of analysis and feeling, not feeling alone.</p>
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