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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>/2013/04/25/go-read-my-review-of-world-until-yesterday-at-the-appendix/comment-page-1/#comment-814917</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 05:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm... I&#039;m not really sure how calling his book a &quot;triumph&quot; counts as being &quot;critical&quot; there Lunarchist.... ;D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; I&#8217;m not really sure how calling his book a &#8220;triumph&#8221; counts as being &#8220;critical&#8221; there Lunarchist&#8230;. ;D</p>
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		<title>By: lunarchist</title>
		<link>/2013/04/25/go-read-my-review-of-world-until-yesterday-at-the-appendix/comment-page-1/#comment-814916</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lunarchist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For another sympathetic, but critical, review of Diamond&#039;s book check out my review here:

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/books/book-reviews/the-world-until-yesterday-what-can-we-learn-from-traditional-societies/422223.article]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For another sympathetic, but critical, review of Diamond&#8217;s book check out my review here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/books/book-reviews/the-world-until-yesterday-what-can-we-learn-from-traditional-societies/422223.article" rel="nofollow">http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/books/book-reviews/the-world-until-yesterday-what-can-we-learn-from-traditional-societies/422223.article</a></p>
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		<title>By: mesmith9</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mesmith9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good idea for an AAA panel. I have enjoyed antagonizing the Diamond-bashers now and then in Publishing Archaeology (not that I am necessarily a big fan, but I think major works should get a fair shake). See &quot;Jared Diamond: Yay or Nay?&quot; http://publishingarchaeology.blogspot.com/2010/02/jared-diamond-yay-or-nay.html,  or &quot;Natural Experiments in Archaeology&quot; http://publishingarchaeology.blogspot.com/2012/09/natural-experiments-in-archaeology.html.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea for an AAA panel. I have enjoyed antagonizing the Diamond-bashers now and then in Publishing Archaeology (not that I am necessarily a big fan, but I think major works should get a fair shake). See &#8220;Jared Diamond: Yay or Nay?&#8221; <a href="http://publishingarchaeology.blogspot.com/2010/02/jared-diamond-yay-or-nay.html" rel="nofollow">http://publishingarchaeology.blogspot.com/2010/02/jared-diamond-yay-or-nay.html</a>,  or &#8220;Natural Experiments in Archaeology&#8221; <a href="http://publishingarchaeology.blogspot.com/2012/09/natural-experiments-in-archaeology.html" rel="nofollow">http://publishingarchaeology.blogspot.com/2012/09/natural-experiments-in-archaeology.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks folks! We&#039;re planning to do a panel at AAAs comparing Mead and Diamond -- there, I&#039;m hoping to present a longer paper on the influence of Ernst Mayr on Diamond, and to focus more on Natural Experiments in History, which I think is an important book that Diamond Scholars (if there is such a thing) need to focus on much more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks folks! We&#8217;re planning to do a panel at AAAs comparing Mead and Diamond &#8212; there, I&#8217;m hoping to present a longer paper on the influence of Ernst Mayr on Diamond, and to focus more on Natural Experiments in History, which I think is an important book that Diamond Scholars (if there is such a thing) need to focus on much more.</p>
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		<title>By: mesmith9</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mesmith9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, that is a great review, full of many deep and important insights. It is both deeply sympathetic to Diamond, and harshly critical of his book. The naturalist/anthropologist distinction is very nicely drawn, not by throwing out the value of the ecological perspective, but by showing its strengths and weaknesses (and the strengths of anthropology). This is one of the most insightful things I have read in months. Very impressive. I think it identifies why many of us appreciate some aspects of Diamond&#039;s work but are very uneasy about much of it.

Now maybe &quot;The Appendix&quot; is great, and SM is certainly great, but if anthropologists really want to get our message to a wider audience, then insights like these need to be presented more forcefully (and perhaps more succinctly) in more popular places. Please consider taking things like this on the road; this essay really brings out the best in anthropology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is a great review, full of many deep and important insights. It is both deeply sympathetic to Diamond, and harshly critical of his book. The naturalist/anthropologist distinction is very nicely drawn, not by throwing out the value of the ecological perspective, but by showing its strengths and weaknesses (and the strengths of anthropology). This is one of the most insightful things I have read in months. Very impressive. I think it identifies why many of us appreciate some aspects of Diamond&#8217;s work but are very uneasy about much of it.</p>
<p>Now maybe &#8220;The Appendix&#8221; is great, and SM is certainly great, but if anthropologists really want to get our message to a wider audience, then insights like these need to be presented more forcefully (and perhaps more succinctly) in more popular places. Please consider taking things like this on the road; this essay really brings out the best in anthropology.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Sammells</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clare Sammells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was beautifully written and deeply insightful.  Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was beautifully written and deeply insightful.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: alwest87</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;an important distinction between the anthropological project, understanding from inside-out, and the naturalist project, understanding from outside-in&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree that the review is excellent, but isn&#039;t that a false dichotomy?  Humans are natural creatures, and Collingwood was wrong; we can only ever understand human beings by what they do, say, and leave behind (ie, from the outside-in, as it were), because we don&#039;t have privileged access to other minds (and it is even arguable whether we have privileged access to our &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; minds).  When humans try to understand one another, they are using precisely the same kind of reasoning as any naturalist.  To believe otherwise is to believe that humans are supernatural.

Diamond should certainly have looked at the interesting things that people in New Guinea believe rather than merely what they do, and his failure to do this is clearly the Achilles&#039; heel of the book.  It is also probable that he failed to discuss these things because he is a naturalist used to concrete &#039;scientific&#039; facts.  It may even have been due to an &lt;i&gt;a priori&lt;/i&gt; belief in the determination of culture by ecology or selection.  But Diamond overlooking these things is a personal failing.  It isn&#039;t evidence that beliefs are not amenable to naturalistic analysis or that naturalism and social anthropology are in some way incompatible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>an important distinction between the anthropological project, understanding from inside-out, and the naturalist project, understanding from outside-in</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree that the review is excellent, but isn&#8217;t that a false dichotomy?  Humans are natural creatures, and Collingwood was wrong; we can only ever understand human beings by what they do, say, and leave behind (ie, from the outside-in, as it were), because we don&#8217;t have privileged access to other minds (and it is even arguable whether we have privileged access to our <i>own</i> minds).  When humans try to understand one another, they are using precisely the same kind of reasoning as any naturalist.  To believe otherwise is to believe that humans are supernatural.</p>
<p>Diamond should certainly have looked at the interesting things that people in New Guinea believe rather than merely what they do, and his failure to do this is clearly the Achilles&#8217; heel of the book.  It is also probable that he failed to discuss these things because he is a naturalist used to concrete &#8216;scientific&#8217; facts.  It may even have been due to an <i>a priori</i> belief in the determination of culture by ecology or selection.  But Diamond overlooking these things is a personal failing.  It isn&#8217;t evidence that beliefs are not amenable to naturalistic analysis or that naturalism and social anthropology are in some way incompatible.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery (@jlmccreery)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery (@jlmccreery)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An entirely admirable review, a generous yet critical reading that draws an important distinction between the anthropological project, understanding from inside-out, and the naturalist project, understanding from outside-in. Bravo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An entirely admirable review, a generous yet critical reading that draws an important distinction between the anthropological project, understanding from inside-out, and the naturalist project, understanding from outside-in. Bravo.</p>
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