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		<title>By: Matthew Wolf-Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Wolf-Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to add to Matt&#039;s comment, one of our goals here is to think about how people move from adjuncting positions to tenure track faculty positions; if you&#039;re happy with your adjuncting or community college job, we&#039;re not so interested in that -- although it might provide the basis for something else in the future. So the survey for current adjuncts is really designed for people who hold a PhD and don&#039;t want to be an adjunct. And the survey for post-adjuncts is designed for people who -- at least at some point -- imagined that they wanted a tenure track job, but who may or may not have one now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to Matt&#8217;s comment, one of our goals here is to think about how people move from adjuncting positions to tenure track faculty positions; if you&#8217;re happy with your adjuncting or community college job, we&#8217;re not so interested in that &#8212; although it might provide the basis for something else in the future. So the survey for current adjuncts is really designed for people who hold a PhD and don&#8217;t want to be an adjunct. And the survey for post-adjuncts is designed for people who &#8212; at least at some point &#8212; imagined that they wanted a tenure track job, but who may or may not have one now.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is true that the distinction between a MA and PhD is somewhat arbitrary, yet however socially constructed that distinction may be it is still a consequential one. 

While an MA is no less a &quot;real&quot; anthropologist than a PhD, what we&#039;re examining here is professional development. Without the terminal degree one has always has the possibility of finishing, even if the desire is not there.

Once you have a PhD the credentialing process is complete. So we&#039;re controlling for that variable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that the distinction between a MA and PhD is somewhat arbitrary, yet however socially constructed that distinction may be it is still a consequential one. </p>
<p>While an MA is no less a &#8220;real&#8221; anthropologist than a PhD, what we&#8217;re examining here is professional development. Without the terminal degree one has always has the possibility of finishing, even if the desire is not there.</p>
<p>Once you have a PhD the credentialing process is complete. So we&#8217;re controlling for that variable.</p>
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		<title>By: PMS</title>
		<link>/2012/11/24/something-joined-or-added-but-not-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-756298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PMS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the number of community colleges in the country, I&#039;d hazard a wild guess that more than half of the adjunct instructors in anthropology who aren&#039;t in ABD status are MA holders.  I&#039;ve been teaching for five years and have no desire to finish my Ph.D. work, despite dropping a decade at Chicago. Many of my colleagues are in similar positions. Why should the survey exclude people trying to make the leap from adjunct to full-time instructor at the CC level? What&#039;s at stake in preserving the distinction?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the number of community colleges in the country, I&#8217;d hazard a wild guess that more than half of the adjunct instructors in anthropology who aren&#8217;t in ABD status are MA holders.  I&#8217;ve been teaching for five years and have no desire to finish my Ph.D. work, despite dropping a decade at Chicago. Many of my colleagues are in similar positions. Why should the survey exclude people trying to make the leap from adjunct to full-time instructor at the CC level? What&#8217;s at stake in preserving the distinction?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Wolf-Meyer</title>
		<link>/2012/11/24/something-joined-or-added-but-not-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-756233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Wolf-Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 02:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve tried to keep the questions as open as we can to allow for all sorts of different possibilities. We couldn&#039;t imagine them all in advance, but hope to get a good picture of how people fit adjuncting into their lives and shape their lives around adjuncting. Thanks for participating to help us flesh everything out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve tried to keep the questions as open as we can to allow for all sorts of different possibilities. We couldn&#8217;t imagine them all in advance, but hope to get a good picture of how people fit adjuncting into their lives and shape their lives around adjuncting. Thanks for participating to help us flesh everything out.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 01:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John,

On a similar theme, I think another possibility are people who are locked into adjunct positions (even crummy ones), are actually okay with it, and have stopped looking for tenure track jobs. While my job doesn&#039;t pay very well it is rather easy and thus affords me plenty of time to be with my three kids. 

Nevertheless, I had to go through a few years of angst and feelings of failure before I came to this point. Even now I remain thoroughly ambivalent about my employment status. I&#039;m sure you felt something similar when you did not receive tenure. I think once you said you were &quot;apocalyptic&quot; afterwords! 

Anyways, I expect that a sense of ambivalence and doubt will turn up in many responses... but we shall see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>On a similar theme, I think another possibility are people who are locked into adjunct positions (even crummy ones), are actually okay with it, and have stopped looking for tenure track jobs. While my job doesn&#8217;t pay very well it is rather easy and thus affords me plenty of time to be with my three kids. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, I had to go through a few years of angst and feelings of failure before I came to this point. Even now I remain thoroughly ambivalent about my employment status. I&#8217;m sure you felt something similar when you did not receive tenure. I think once you said you were &#8220;apocalyptic&#8221; afterwords! </p>
<p>Anyways, I expect that a sense of ambivalence and doubt will turn up in many responses&#8230; but we shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Wolf.

When you check my answers, you may discover a phenomenon not imagined in your questionnaire, becoming an adjunct as a hobby instead of a livelihood. This possibility is quite common in Japan and, I understand from gossip, in business and other professional schools in other parts of the world. The business schools call adjuncts of this type &quot;clinical professors,&quot; and hires them to share their practical experience with students more interested in recent war stories than in organizational theory. 

This is, in many respects, a totally different world from that of adjuncts who are just starting academic careers and hoping to win tenure. I mention it here only because it represents a possibility rarely considered in these discussions. Securing a livelihood outside of academia while retaining academic interests and returning to teach at a later point in your life,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Wolf.</p>
<p>When you check my answers, you may discover a phenomenon not imagined in your questionnaire, becoming an adjunct as a hobby instead of a livelihood. This possibility is quite common in Japan and, I understand from gossip, in business and other professional schools in other parts of the world. The business schools call adjuncts of this type &#8220;clinical professors,&#8221; and hires them to share their practical experience with students more interested in recent war stories than in organizational theory. </p>
<p>This is, in many respects, a totally different world from that of adjuncts who are just starting academic careers and hoping to win tenure. I mention it here only because it represents a possibility rarely considered in these discussions. Securing a livelihood outside of academia while retaining academic interests and returning to teach at a later point in your life,</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Wolf-Meyer</title>
		<link>/2012/11/24/something-joined-or-added-but-not-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-756200</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Wolf-Meyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 01:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re not asking for people who are still ABDs with the assumption that as long as you&#039;re ABD you aren&#039;t formally part of the workforce (e.g. you might go back to being a teaching assistant and you&#039;re eligible for kinds of support that PhDs are not, like dissertation writing grants). I recognize that some people might stay ABD until they get a tenure track job, but I&#039;m not sure how representative those cases are of what we&#039;re interested in. 

And I&#039;ll clarify the survey: if you have a PhD in Anthropology and you adjunct or have adjuncted, you&#039;re eligible to complete the survey, regardless of what kind of department you adjunct for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not asking for people who are still ABDs with the assumption that as long as you&#8217;re ABD you aren&#8217;t formally part of the workforce (e.g. you might go back to being a teaching assistant and you&#8217;re eligible for kinds of support that PhDs are not, like dissertation writing grants). I recognize that some people might stay ABD until they get a tenure track job, but I&#8217;m not sure how representative those cases are of what we&#8217;re interested in. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll clarify the survey: if you have a PhD in Anthropology and you adjunct or have adjuncted, you&#8217;re eligible to complete the survey, regardless of what kind of department you adjunct for.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripley</title>
		<link>/2012/11/24/something-joined-or-added-but-not-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-756163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ripley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this only for people teaching in anthropology department? I note that you are not in an anthropology department. many adjuncts hop across departments. What does &quot;in anthropology mean?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this only for people teaching in anthropology department? I note that you are not in an anthropology department. many adjuncts hop across departments. What does &#8220;in anthropology mean?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: megan</title>
		<link>/2012/11/24/something-joined-or-added-but-not-essential/comment-page-1/#comment-756157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[megan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This survey assumes you have the PhD at time of adjuncting, and requires you to state how long ago you received it.  Lots of adjuncts are ABD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This survey assumes you have the PhD at time of adjuncting, and requires you to state how long ago you received it.  Lots of adjuncts are ABD.</p>
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