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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I carry around the Kindle edition on my iPad. Great for reading in small chunks when time allows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I carry around the Kindle edition on my iPad. Great for reading in small chunks when time allows.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin (Oneman)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin (Oneman)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the book recommendation, John. It looks really interesting! (It&#039;s also 880 pages, which is a little thick to fit into my current &quot;bedside stack&quot;, so it may be a while before I can get to it...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the book recommendation, John. It looks really interesting! (It&#8217;s also 880 pages, which is a little thick to fit into my current &#8220;bedside stack&#8221;, so it may be a while before I can get to it&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating. I love the wealth of detail that upsets conventional images. What could be more anthropological.  Are you familiar with Michael Kammen&#039;s _Mystic Chords of Memory: The Transformation of Tradition in American Culture_? If not, I&#039;d highly recommend it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating. I love the wealth of detail that upsets conventional images. What could be more anthropological.  Are you familiar with Michael Kammen&#8217;s _Mystic Chords of Memory: The Transformation of Tradition in American Culture_? If not, I&#8217;d highly recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin (Oneman)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin (Oneman)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John: Ironically, Las Vegas isn&#039;t much of a burlesque town -- although a lot of burlesque legends performers here (Tempest Storm, Lili St. Cyr, Candy Barr, Liz Renay), there&#039;s always been a lot of &quot;noise&quot; in the form of choreographed stage productions (topless revues and the like) and, later, more explicit entertainments (strip clubs, adult entertainment, etc.). When I started volunteering at BHoF 2 1/2 years ago, there was hardly any burlesque here. The big burlesque cities are Seattle, New York, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Chicago, Toronto, and a handful of others.

And of course, we didn&#039;t start here. Exotic World, our name before the move to Vegas, was in Helendale, CA, a tiny little place on a stretch of old Route 66 near Victorville, hardly a burlesque hotspot! They could have just as easily moved to LA when Exotic World had to be closed, it&#039;s just a historical accident that Las Vegas was chosen instead. 

Now, as a person charged with the *business* of running a museum, it is my job to recognize the value of the &quot;glitz, glitter, gambling and gangsters&quot; image and try to make it work for us. With the Mob Museum opening here earlier this year and the Neon Museum just about to open its doors to the public, both only a few blocks from our location, there&#039;s a real synergy. I&#039;ve taken to saying &quot;The people on our walls dated the people on the Mob Museum&#039;s walls under the signs at the Neon Museum.&quot; But if we were somewhere else, we&#039;d adapt -- lots of other museums end up in places with no direct connection to their content (Seattle&#039;s Rock and Roll Experience and Los Angeles&#039; Holocaust Museum come to mind). And of course, natural history museums, science centers, and zoos are found just about everywhere.

But it&#039;s true, historical museums do tend to take advantage of their place, most notably in that the vast bulk of them are housed in historical buildings, like the MLK museum at the spot where he was assassinated, or the many, many museums dedicated to particular people in the houses where they lived. In quite a few cases, the building is part of the collection, or even *is* the collection (like the Tenement House Museum in New York). Place has power -- going along with my discussion of the &quot;aura&quot; of objects in the last post. There&#039;s no specific reason why it would be easier to learn certain lessons about the past at the place where it happened, but Western museum culture is hardly unique in taking advantage of the fact that, apparently, it does -- culture after culture marks specific places as &quot;sacred&quot; and ties aspects of its cultural, historical, and moral instruction to those places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: Ironically, Las Vegas isn&#8217;t much of a burlesque town &#8212; although a lot of burlesque legends performers here (Tempest Storm, Lili St. Cyr, Candy Barr, Liz Renay), there&#8217;s always been a lot of &#8220;noise&#8221; in the form of choreographed stage productions (topless revues and the like) and, later, more explicit entertainments (strip clubs, adult entertainment, etc.). When I started volunteering at BHoF 2 1/2 years ago, there was hardly any burlesque here. The big burlesque cities are Seattle, New York, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Chicago, Toronto, and a handful of others.</p>
<p>And of course, we didn&#8217;t start here. Exotic World, our name before the move to Vegas, was in Helendale, CA, a tiny little place on a stretch of old Route 66 near Victorville, hardly a burlesque hotspot! They could have just as easily moved to LA when Exotic World had to be closed, it&#8217;s just a historical accident that Las Vegas was chosen instead. </p>
<p>Now, as a person charged with the *business* of running a museum, it is my job to recognize the value of the &#8220;glitz, glitter, gambling and gangsters&#8221; image and try to make it work for us. With the Mob Museum opening here earlier this year and the Neon Museum just about to open its doors to the public, both only a few blocks from our location, there&#8217;s a real synergy. I&#8217;ve taken to saying &#8220;The people on our walls dated the people on the Mob Museum&#8217;s walls under the signs at the Neon Museum.&#8221; But if we were somewhere else, we&#8217;d adapt &#8212; lots of other museums end up in places with no direct connection to their content (Seattle&#8217;s Rock and Roll Experience and Los Angeles&#8217; Holocaust Museum come to mind). And of course, natural history museums, science centers, and zoos are found just about everywhere.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s true, historical museums do tend to take advantage of their place, most notably in that the vast bulk of them are housed in historical buildings, like the MLK museum at the spot where he was assassinated, or the many, many museums dedicated to particular people in the houses where they lived. In quite a few cases, the building is part of the collection, or even *is* the collection (like the Tenement House Museum in New York). Place has power &#8212; going along with my discussion of the &#8220;aura&#8221; of objects in the last post. There&#8217;s no specific reason why it would be easier to learn certain lessons about the past at the place where it happened, but Western museum culture is hardly unique in taking advantage of the fact that, apparently, it does &#8212; culture after culture marks specific places as &#8220;sacred&#8221; and ties aspects of its cultural, historical, and moral instruction to those places.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin (Oneman)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin (Oneman)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nina: Thanks so much! I might not have phrased that part well -- and of course you&#039;re right. I couldn&#039;t do my job at all without the tremendous support I get from the community my museum serves. But that does mark a significant departure from past museum practices! In a sense, being an ED (or at least how I see my role) means empowering others to empower the museum. It&#039;s definitely a two-way street. Maybe that&#039;s best reflected in the growing focus on &quot;engagement&quot; vs. &quot;education&quot; -- today&#039;s museums search for ways of engaging with audiences and other members of their community, rather than simply lecturing at them. (Of course, as an educator &quot;in my spare time&quot; -- I&#039;ve adjuncted for 10 years now -- I have to say that &quot;education&quot;  reflects that same shift, moving from a lecture-based model to one that works to engage learners more broadly. But hopefully I&#039;m putting this clearly enough...).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nina: Thanks so much! I might not have phrased that part well &#8212; and of course you&#8217;re right. I couldn&#8217;t do my job at all without the tremendous support I get from the community my museum serves. But that does mark a significant departure from past museum practices! In a sense, being an ED (or at least how I see my role) means empowering others to empower the museum. It&#8217;s definitely a two-way street. Maybe that&#8217;s best reflected in the growing focus on &#8220;engagement&#8221; vs. &#8220;education&#8221; &#8212; today&#8217;s museums search for ways of engaging with audiences and other members of their community, rather than simply lecturing at them. (Of course, as an educator &#8220;in my spare time&#8221; &#8212; I&#8217;ve adjuncted for 10 years now &#8212; I have to say that &#8220;education&#8221;  reflects that same shift, moving from a lecture-based model to one that works to engage learners more broadly. But hopefully I&#8217;m putting this clearly enough&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Nina Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nina Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dustin,

Thank you for the kind shout-out in your post. I went back and read the previous one and wished I had come to visit you when I was in the area in the spring. I strongly believe that small, idiosyncratic museums (which I can only imagine yours is) have the greatest potential to lead the field in a shift towards community-centered practice. As a fellow executive director, I sympathize with the &quot;community organizer&quot; role.

That said, I think your characterization of the role as being &quot;charged with using the resources at hand to empower others in my community to change their lives&quot; as a bit one-sided. One of the things I&#039;ve learned over the past 1.5 years as an ED is how much other people--community members--bring assets and resources that empower our institution in ways I couldn&#039;t have imagined. Maybe it&#039;s more about being charged to energize people and connect diverse resources to co-create a stronger community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dustin,</p>
<p>Thank you for the kind shout-out in your post. I went back and read the previous one and wished I had come to visit you when I was in the area in the spring. I strongly believe that small, idiosyncratic museums (which I can only imagine yours is) have the greatest potential to lead the field in a shift towards community-centered practice. As a fellow executive director, I sympathize with the &#8220;community organizer&#8221; role.</p>
<p>That said, I think your characterization of the role as being &#8220;charged with using the resources at hand to empower others in my community to change their lives&#8221; as a bit one-sided. One of the things I&#8217;ve learned over the past 1.5 years as an ED is how much other people&#8211;community members&#8211;bring assets and resources that empower our institution in ways I couldn&#8217;t have imagined. Maybe it&#8217;s more about being charged to energize people and connect diverse resources to co-create a stronger community.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 23:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I&#039;m wondering about, none too clearly yet, is what I am tentatively calling &quot;selective affinities&quot; between places and spaces. Thus, for example, it seems entirely right to me that your burlesque museum should be in Las Vegas, where glitz, glitter, gambling and gangsters are all part of a cultural ambience in which burlesque fits perfectly. I would probably feel the same if the museum were located in Atlantic City. If, on the other hand, it were located in Omaha or Cincinnati, my reaction would be &quot;What the F...!&quot;  and intense interest in the story if how that happened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m wondering about, none too clearly yet, is what I am tentatively calling &#8220;selective affinities&#8221; between places and spaces. Thus, for example, it seems entirely right to me that your burlesque museum should be in Las Vegas, where glitz, glitter, gambling and gangsters are all part of a cultural ambience in which burlesque fits perfectly. I would probably feel the same if the museum were located in Atlantic City. If, on the other hand, it were located in Omaha or Cincinnati, my reaction would be &#8220;What the F&#8230;!&#8221;  and intense interest in the story if how that happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin (Oneman)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin (Oneman)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll think about that, John. Place is actually really important to history museums, a huge number of which are historical house museums or located in historical structures. My thumbnail thought is that it&#039;s not entirely dissimilar to the issues around &quot;the field&quot; in anthropology -- for instance, how some places become associated with specific concepts, like the Trobriand Islands and &quot;exchange&quot; or the Azande and &quot;magic&quot;. There was a panel on &quot;place&quot; in the museum world at the conference I went to last week -- alas, I didn&#039;t go to it :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll think about that, John. Place is actually really important to history museums, a huge number of which are historical house museums or located in historical structures. My thumbnail thought is that it&#8217;s not entirely dissimilar to the issues around &#8220;the field&#8221; in anthropology &#8212; for instance, how some places become associated with specific concepts, like the Trobriand Islands and &#8220;exchange&#8221; or the Azande and &#8220;magic&#8221;. There was a panel on &#8220;place&#8221; in the museum world at the conference I went to last week &#8212; alas, I didn&#8217;t go to it 🙁</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 12:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dustin, I would like to hear your thoughts on the relationship of your museum to place and space. By place I mean a geographical place that asserts a distinct identity. In the case of the USA I would be thinking of a hierarchy that would include museums run by local historical societies at one extreme and the Smithsonian Institution at the other, with state museums in the middle. By space I mean a cultural space, typically defined by association with some particular type of activity, the founding of the nation at Colonial Williamsburg, seafaring and shipbuilding at the Mariners Museum in Newport News, Virginia (both near where I grew up), traditional rural life at the Shelburne Museum in Vermont, modern art at the Phillips in Washington,D.C. The cultural or conceptual spaces occupied by these museums spill over geographical boundaries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin, I would like to hear your thoughts on the relationship of your museum to place and space. By place I mean a geographical place that asserts a distinct identity. In the case of the USA I would be thinking of a hierarchy that would include museums run by local historical societies at one extreme and the Smithsonian Institution at the other, with state museums in the middle. By space I mean a cultural space, typically defined by association with some particular type of activity, the founding of the nation at Colonial Williamsburg, seafaring and shipbuilding at the Mariners Museum in Newport News, Virginia (both near where I grew up), traditional rural life at the Shelburne Museum in Vermont, modern art at the Phillips in Washington,D.C. The cultural or conceptual spaces occupied by these museums spill over geographical boundaries.</p>
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