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		<title>By: Tim Elf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Elf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt, you may not have met Terry Evens while you were at UNC.  His latest book, which is relevant to Chris&#039;s posts on ethics, is titled: Anthropology As Ethics: Nondualism and the Conduct of Sacrifice.
http://www.berghahnbooks.com/title.php?rowtag=EvensAnthropology]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, you may not have met Terry Evens while you were at UNC.  His latest book, which is relevant to Chris&#8217;s posts on ethics, is titled: Anthropology As Ethics: Nondualism and the Conduct of Sacrifice.<br />
<a href="http://www.berghahnbooks.com/title.php?rowtag=EvensAnthropology" rel="nofollow">http://www.berghahnbooks.com/title.php?rowtag=EvensAnthropology</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pascvaks</title>
		<link>/2011/07/17/the-anthropology-of/comment-page-1/#comment-706739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pascvaks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Let he who has ears hear&quot; and write.  

The summ of all know variables is a summ of variables.  How they are interpreted is an individual experience.  The world&#039;s greatest subject matter expert can give a truly unique perspective of his subject but must also include a sufficient perspective of himself and his character and personality and prejudices and times to be truly revealing so as to allow the reader to delve between the lines.  Life&#039;s a beach.  There a lot to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let he who has ears hear&#8221; and write.  </p>
<p>The summ of all know variables is a summ of variables.  How they are interpreted is an individual experience.  The world&#8217;s greatest subject matter expert can give a truly unique perspective of his subject but must also include a sufficient perspective of himself and his character and personality and prejudices and times to be truly revealing so as to allow the reader to delve between the lines.  Life&#8217;s a beach.  There a lot to it.</p>
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		<title>By: MTBradley</title>
		<link>/2011/07/17/the-anthropology-of/comment-page-1/#comment-706697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MTBradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I mean geocentric. I sound less like Michele Bachmann when I&#8217;m well-rested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean geocentric. I sound less like Michele Bachmann when I&#8217;m well-rested.</p>
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		<title>By: MTBradley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MTBradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
		Lexicology strikes me as exactly the kind of field which cannot imagine a concept as a non-discursive object in the world… 
	&lt;/blockquote&gt;

	I think it&#8217;s less that lexicologists can&#8217;t imagine a concept as a non-discursive object in the world than it is that an awareness of clearly articulated concepts that are yet to exist (such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUFBl9Ouk4E&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mass transit via jetpacks&lt;/a&gt;) and once generally accepted concepts that never did (heliocentrism, for example) engenders a healthy scepticism.]]></description>
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		Lexicology strikes me as exactly the kind of field which cannot imagine a concept as a non-discursive object in the world…
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<p>	I think it&#8217;s less that lexicologists can&#8217;t imagine a concept as a non-discursive object in the world than it is that an awareness of clearly articulated concepts that are yet to exist (such as <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUFBl9Ouk4E" rel="nofollow">mass transit via jetpacks</a>) and once generally accepted concepts that never did (heliocentrism, for example) engenders a healthy scepticism.</p>
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		<title>By: ckelty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 04:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@MTBradley.  Funny.  I can&#039;t tell if its helpful though.  Lexicology strikes me as exactly the kind of field which cannot imagine a concept as a non-discursive object in the world... but that&#039;s probably my bias.  But there is no doubt something to be said for careful attention to linguistic variation, pace Humphrey on Freedom in russian...

@Matt.  Or maybe reversal: Freedom from Anthropology :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MTBradley.  Funny.  I can&#8217;t tell if its helpful though.  Lexicology strikes me as exactly the kind of field which cannot imagine a concept as a non-discursive object in the world&#8230; but that&#8217;s probably my bias.  But there is no doubt something to be said for careful attention to linguistic variation, pace Humphrey on Freedom in russian&#8230;</p>
<p>@Matt.  Or maybe reversal: Freedom from Anthropology 🙂</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes it seems that the preposition is misplaced, like in Turner&#039;s &quot;Anthropology of Performance&quot; which could have been retitled &quot;Anthropology as Performance&quot;.

Why not an &quot;anthropology as...&quot; or an &quot;anthropology for...&quot; ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes it seems that the preposition is misplaced, like in Turner&#8217;s &#8220;Anthropology of Performance&#8221; which could have been retitled &#8220;Anthropology as Performance&#8221;.</p>
<p>Why not an &#8220;anthropology as&#8230;&#8221; or an &#8220;anthropology for&#8230;&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: MTBradley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MTBradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
		There should be a distinction between words, terms and concepts. Words are arbitrary (pace Saussure), and so one must be careful in basing claims on google searches for X; terms are less so, and tend to have philological affinity across domains, cultures and languages; but concepts are not discursive. And to the extent that they are not, they have a life of their own not only in texts, but in actions and institutions. 
	&lt;/blockquote&gt;

	Lexicological theory can contribute a great deal to your project but presenting the statement above to a room full of lexicologists would perhaps be akin to going to war with a steel helmet and an Enfield against an opponent kitted out with HKs and Kevlar. Anna Wierzbicka (who isn&#8217;t necessarily in step with the mainline of lexicological theory but is by no means a fringe figure) has done &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=6YJjY9qBv9kC&#038;lpg=PA129&#038;ots=zjXASDBjS7&#038;dq=Anna%20Wierzbicka%20freedom&#038;pg=PA125#v=snippet&#038;q=most%20of%20the%20copious%20literature&#038;f=false&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some relevant work&lt;/a&gt; and Leonhard Lipka&#8217;s &lt;em&gt;English lexicology&lt;/em&gt; is a very good introduction to the contemporary field more broadly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
		There should be a distinction between words, terms and concepts. Words are arbitrary (pace Saussure), and so one must be careful in basing claims on google searches for X; terms are less so, and tend to have philological affinity across domains, cultures and languages; but concepts are not discursive. And to the extent that they are not, they have a life of their own not only in texts, but in actions and institutions.
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<p>	Lexicological theory can contribute a great deal to your project but presenting the statement above to a room full of lexicologists would perhaps be akin to going to war with a steel helmet and an Enfield against an opponent kitted out with HKs and Kevlar. Anna Wierzbicka (who isn&#8217;t necessarily in step with the mainline of lexicological theory but is by no means a fringe figure) has done <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=6YJjY9qBv9kC&#038;lpg=PA129&#038;ots=zjXASDBjS7&#038;dq=Anna%20Wierzbicka%20freedom&#038;pg=PA125#v=snippet&#038;q=most%20of%20the%20copious%20literature&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow">some relevant work</a> and Leonhard Lipka&#8217;s <em>English lexicology</em> is a very good introduction to the contemporary field more broadly.</p>
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		<title>By: The Anthropology of Freedom, pt. 4 &#124; Savage Minds</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Anthropology of Freedom, pt. 4 &#124; Savage Minds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that I would love to explore. Conveniently, one of them is the question Rex raised about &#8220;Anthropologies Of...&#8221; I honestly didn&#8217;t mean to signal &#8220;The Anthropology of Freedom&#8221; as a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] that I would love to explore. Conveniently, one of them is the question Rex raised about &#8220;Anthropologies Of&#8230;&#8221; I honestly didn&#8217;t mean to signal &#8220;The Anthropology of Freedom&#8221; as a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Daniel: I have no idea what you&#039;re talking about. I think of anthropology as a trade rather than a vocation? 

@kelty: I understand that you think that freedom is &quot;a core human problematic&quot;. Respectfully, I&#039;d like to ask you to understand it is not -- it is just your culture making which makes you think it is. Really. Asking  &quot;why aren&#039;t our problems their problems, since obviously they are the important ones?&quot; rlly starts to look like ethnocentrism in an uncomplicated Anth 101 sense. Or perhaps you&#039;ve done some sort of extensive cross-cultural readings in ethnography that you haven&#039;t blogged about that indicates that the concept is a core human problematic? And if it is, why haven&#039;t anthropologists -- who are presumably human -- dealt with it? 

In sum, it seems to me that your intuition is at odds with the evidence and that somehow lesson you take from this is that there is something wrong with the evidence. Do you see why I think this is not the sort of move you want to be making (if you are making it)?

Secondly, in my post I mentioned that you seemed to be engaged in &#039;logical positivism manqué&#039; and I think your discussion of the word/term/concept distinction. You seem to believe that there are concepts &#039;out there&#039; which exist in all cultures but are realized differently in each of them... or something like that? Could you explain more as I didn&#039;t really follow that part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel: I have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about. I think of anthropology as a trade rather than a vocation? </p>
<p>@kelty: I understand that you think that freedom is &#8220;a core human problematic&#8221;. Respectfully, I&#8217;d like to ask you to understand it is not &#8212; it is just your culture making which makes you think it is. Really. Asking  &#8220;why aren&#8217;t our problems their problems, since obviously they are the important ones?&#8221; rlly starts to look like ethnocentrism in an uncomplicated Anth 101 sense. Or perhaps you&#8217;ve done some sort of extensive cross-cultural readings in ethnography that you haven&#8217;t blogged about that indicates that the concept is a core human problematic? And if it is, why haven&#8217;t anthropologists &#8212; who are presumably human &#8212; dealt with it? </p>
<p>In sum, it seems to me that your intuition is at odds with the evidence and that somehow lesson you take from this is that there is something wrong with the evidence. Do you see why I think this is not the sort of move you want to be making (if you are making it)?</p>
<p>Secondly, in my post I mentioned that you seemed to be engaged in &#8216;logical positivism manqué&#8217; and I think your discussion of the word/term/concept distinction. You seem to believe that there are concepts &#8216;out there&#8217; which exist in all cultures but are realized differently in each of them&#8230; or something like that? Could you explain more as I didn&#8217;t really follow that part.</p>
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		<title>By: ckelty</title>
		<link>/2011/07/17/the-anthropology-of/comment-page-1/#comment-706675</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ckelty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@rex.  very helpful as usual.  You picked up on the subterranean anxiety in my posts which is that this isn&#039;t really about freedom per se, but about about the notion of how concepts and empirical questions are related.  On the one hand I&#039;m more interested in the mystery of why there has been no &quot;anthropology of&quot; something, than in actually pursuing it to any great depth (much less creating it, or offering to lead, which would be a disaster for everyone).  It&#039;s a bit like asking &quot;what doesn&#039;t anthropology study, and why?&quot;  On the other hand, I think that the concept of freedom, in particular, is in fact a core human problematic, and so I am honestly surprised, ideological repugnance notwithstanding, that it has been treated so obliquely, and so part of the investigation here is to ask: 1) is there anything to the concept 2) does it map on to shared concepts at work either amongst anthropologists or in particular regions of the world that have been richly theorized by anthropologists and 3) should it be?

A further specification might be that I guess I have a rather specific and perhaps metaphysical meaning of &quot;concept&quot; in mind.  There should be a distinction between words, terms and concepts.  Words are arbitrary (pace Saussure), and so one must be careful in basing claims on google searches for X; terms are less so, and tend to have philological affinity across domains, cultures and languages; but concepts are not discursive. And to the extent that they are not, they have a life of their own not only in texts, but in actions and institutions.  But this doesn&#039;t make it transportable, as your &quot;ethnographic theory&quot; section seems to imply... it is there, in the world also.  I may be in some kind of realist mode, but it is in this sense that I&#039;m struggling with the idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rex.  very helpful as usual.  You picked up on the subterranean anxiety in my posts which is that this isn&#8217;t really about freedom per se, but about about the notion of how concepts and empirical questions are related.  On the one hand I&#8217;m more interested in the mystery of why there has been no &#8220;anthropology of&#8221; something, than in actually pursuing it to any great depth (much less creating it, or offering to lead, which would be a disaster for everyone).  It&#8217;s a bit like asking &#8220;what doesn&#8217;t anthropology study, and why?&#8221;  On the other hand, I think that the concept of freedom, in particular, is in fact a core human problematic, and so I am honestly surprised, ideological repugnance notwithstanding, that it has been treated so obliquely, and so part of the investigation here is to ask: 1) is there anything to the concept 2) does it map on to shared concepts at work either amongst anthropologists or in particular regions of the world that have been richly theorized by anthropologists and 3) should it be?</p>
<p>A further specification might be that I guess I have a rather specific and perhaps metaphysical meaning of &#8220;concept&#8221; in mind.  There should be a distinction between words, terms and concepts.  Words are arbitrary (pace Saussure), and so one must be careful in basing claims on google searches for X; terms are less so, and tend to have philological affinity across domains, cultures and languages; but concepts are not discursive. And to the extent that they are not, they have a life of their own not only in texts, but in actions and institutions.  But this doesn&#8217;t make it transportable, as your &#8220;ethnographic theory&#8221; section seems to imply&#8230; it is there, in the world also.  I may be in some kind of realist mode, but it is in this sense that I&#8217;m struggling with the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Taghioff</title>
		<link>/2011/07/17/the-anthropology-of/comment-page-1/#comment-706665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Taghioff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with Anthropologists approaching their work as the niche of particularity only, is that they then position themselves as part of a panoptical arrangement. 

It is only as anthropology is reversed and the normal disrupted through the reassembly of the particular that the hermeneutic circle of studying human-kind is closed, and this applies particularly to ruling ideas such as freedom. 

If we treat Anthropology as a trade and not as a vocation, we are prone to become tools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Anthropologists approaching their work as the niche of particularity only, is that they then position themselves as part of a panoptical arrangement. </p>
<p>It is only as anthropology is reversed and the normal disrupted through the reassembly of the particular that the hermeneutic circle of studying human-kind is closed, and this applies particularly to ruling ideas such as freedom. </p>
<p>If we treat Anthropology as a trade and not as a vocation, we are prone to become tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivere a Biella &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “The Anthropology Of…” &#124; Savage Minds</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vivere a Biella &#187; Blog Archive &#187; “The Anthropology Of…” &#124; Savage Minds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 01:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#039;freedom&#039;, and other such new-fangled ideas through the lens of my own decidedly &#8230; permalink   Condividi la [...]]]></description>
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