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		<title>By: Dannah</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoyed this post. As a veteran of the elevators described, I was hoping to see a good reflective piece written on it. To my mind, one of the goals of anthropology is to bring &quot;what goes without saying&quot; to conscious awareness. Doing this in small ways, such as observing people&#039;s behavior around elevators, often leads to doing it in big ways. Jenny has given us a nice example of the kind of &quot;theorized noticing&quot; that can lead to real breakthroughs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed this post. As a veteran of the elevators described, I was hoping to see a good reflective piece written on it. To my mind, one of the goals of anthropology is to bring &#8220;what goes without saying&#8221; to conscious awareness. Doing this in small ways, such as observing people&#8217;s behavior around elevators, often leads to doing it in big ways. Jenny has given us a nice example of the kind of &#8220;theorized noticing&#8221; that can lead to real breakthroughs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scroggins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Scroggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A (very) few words in defense of an inductive anthropology of the mundane. 

One of the great scientific theories is about the mundane, everyday observation that things fall to the earth, not away from it, or sideways to it. Starting from a very concrete and particular observation a theory was induced, then amplified and refined to cover not just apples, but falling bodies of all sorts. Lest you object that only the natural sciences can derived such a theory, let me remind you that Sack&#039;s powerful theory of turn taking in conversation was formulated in the same manner. 

To say that what happens among people trying to educate themselves about an unexpected and surprising elevator is unimportant because it SEEMS unimportant is a metaphysical position, not a scientific one. If there is anything common (one might even say lawful) about education into technology (which is education in the large), then it is to be found anywhere and everywhere people must go about educating themselves and those around them. 

There are no small phenomena...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A (very) few words in defense of an inductive anthropology of the mundane. </p>
<p>One of the great scientific theories is about the mundane, everyday observation that things fall to the earth, not away from it, or sideways to it. Starting from a very concrete and particular observation a theory was induced, then amplified and refined to cover not just apples, but falling bodies of all sorts. Lest you object that only the natural sciences can derived such a theory, let me remind you that Sack&#8217;s powerful theory of turn taking in conversation was formulated in the same manner. </p>
<p>To say that what happens among people trying to educate themselves about an unexpected and surprising elevator is unimportant because it SEEMS unimportant is a metaphysical position, not a scientific one. If there is anything common (one might even say lawful) about education into technology (which is education in the large), then it is to be found anywhere and everywhere people must go about educating themselves and those around them. </p>
<p>There are no small phenomena&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do I believe that there should be separate subfields for bedrooms, alleys, etc.? No. But one of the things that anthropologists sometimes do well that I have found very interesting is use everyday things and places to contribute to conversations about larger topics, while keeping them firmly grounded in the everyday. The essay by Latour that Claire recommended is a good example. In it, Latour writes about a door; but the door becomes a vehicle for some serious thinking about technology and the implications of technology&#039;s taking over functions formerly performed by people. 

And, speaking of elevators, there are those in Einstein&#039;s thought experiments that inspired his theory of relativity. A good illustration of the rule that it isn&#039;t what catches people&#039;s attention, it&#039;s what they do with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I believe that there should be separate subfields for bedrooms, alleys, etc.? No. But one of the things that anthropologists sometimes do well that I have found very interesting is use everyday things and places to contribute to conversations about larger topics, while keeping them firmly grounded in the everyday. The essay by Latour that Claire recommended is a good example. In it, Latour writes about a door; but the door becomes a vehicle for some serious thinking about technology and the implications of technology&#8217;s taking over functions formerly performed by people. </p>
<p>And, speaking of elevators, there are those in Einstein&#8217;s thought experiments that inspired his theory of relativity. A good illustration of the rule that it isn&#8217;t what catches people&#8217;s attention, it&#8217;s what they do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Izabel</title>
		<link>/2011/01/23/fleeting-togetherness-in-smart-elevator/comment-page-1/#comment-704028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M. Izabel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope this won&#039;t be deleted this time.

John, one can then say that we can also have anthropology of bedrooms, anthropology of alleys, anthropology of ladders, anthropology of roofs, anthropology of curbs, anthropology of benches, etc.  There&#039;s also &quot;fleeting togetherness&quot; in them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this won&#8217;t be deleted this time.</p>
<p>John, one can then say that we can also have anthropology of bedrooms, anthropology of alleys, anthropology of ladders, anthropology of roofs, anthropology of curbs, anthropology of benches, etc.  There&#8217;s also &#8220;fleeting togetherness&#8221; in them.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In defense of elevators and Cool. 

There are those among us who believe that writing about elevators and the behavior of people in them debases anthropology. I respectfully disagree. Here we have a piece that Max Weber, no less, was interested in &quot;fleeting togetherness&quot; as a social phenomenon and pays careful attention to the disruption of established habits by an unfamiliar set of controls. I find myself wondering how differently Erving Goffman&#039;s take on this situation would have been from Weber&#039;s. Would there be more concern about the habitual masks that people adopt in elevators and how these may come off a bit when the elevator doesn&#039;t behave like an elevator should? My wandering thoughts throw up a memory of an essay by Walker Percy, inspired by a train accident on a New York commuter line and how different the world looks, he imagines, to a survivor who escaped without a scratch. And then--of course--the elevator in &lt;i&gt;The Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide to the Galaxy&lt;/i&gt;, equipped with precognition, that tries to tell the hero, &quot;You really don&#039;t want to go there.&quot; Which brings me to Claire&#039;s recommendation, an essay by Latour that is all about what is involved in substituting non-human for human beings and then realizing that they have, in a sense, minds of their own. There is lots of good stuff to think about here.

And then I think, too, of the people I met at EPIC and the conversations I read on AnthroDesign. Noticing things like what goes on in new kinds of elevators is a way in which growing numbers of anthropologists are making a living. I don&#039;t see anything to despise here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of elevators and Cool. </p>
<p>There are those among us who believe that writing about elevators and the behavior of people in them debases anthropology. I respectfully disagree. Here we have a piece that Max Weber, no less, was interested in &#8220;fleeting togetherness&#8221; as a social phenomenon and pays careful attention to the disruption of established habits by an unfamiliar set of controls. I find myself wondering how differently Erving Goffman&#8217;s take on this situation would have been from Weber&#8217;s. Would there be more concern about the habitual masks that people adopt in elevators and how these may come off a bit when the elevator doesn&#8217;t behave like an elevator should? My wandering thoughts throw up a memory of an essay by Walker Percy, inspired by a train accident on a New York commuter line and how different the world looks, he imagines, to a survivor who escaped without a scratch. And then&#8211;of course&#8211;the elevator in <i>The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy</i>, equipped with precognition, that tries to tell the hero, &#8220;You really don&#8217;t want to go there.&#8221; Which brings me to Claire&#8217;s recommendation, an essay by Latour that is all about what is involved in substituting non-human for human beings and then realizing that they have, in a sense, minds of their own. There is lots of good stuff to think about here.</p>
<p>And then I think, too, of the people I met at EPIC and the conversations I read on AnthroDesign. Noticing things like what goes on in new kinds of elevators is a way in which growing numbers of anthropologists are making a living. I don&#8217;t see anything to despise here.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Claire, thank you. I&#039;ve been wanting to read some Latour, and this is a wonderful introduction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire, thank you. I&#8217;ve been wanting to read some Latour, and this is a wonderful introduction.</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[claire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post, Jenny. Your post made me think of Latour&#039;s &quot;Where are the missing masses&quot;, regarding non-human objects and their agency. Hope you get a chance to read it if you haven&#039;t already. (You can download this for free from his website here: http://www.bruno-latour.fr/articles/article/50-MISSING-MASSESrepub.pdf )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Jenny. Your post made me think of Latour&#8217;s &#8220;Where are the missing masses&#8221;, regarding non-human objects and their agency. Hope you get a chance to read it if you haven&#8217;t already. (You can download this for free from his website here: <a href="http://www.bruno-latour.fr/articles/article/50-MISSING-MASSESrepub.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruno-latour.fr/articles/article/50-MISSING-MASSESrepub.pdf</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Kerim</title>
		<link>/2011/01/23/fleeting-togetherness-in-smart-elevator/comment-page-1/#comment-703997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kerim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is important to distinguish between genuine control an the appearance of control. A lot of devices have &quot;fake&quot;&#039; buttons to let users feel they have some sense of control when they do not. Many (but not all) elevators have fake &quot;door close&quot; buttons, many &quot;walk&quot; buttons (at urban crosswalks) do nothing, and many thermostats are fake as well:

http://consumerist.com/2010/11/most-close-door-buttons-are-just-there-to-make-you-feel-better.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is important to distinguish between genuine control an the appearance of control. A lot of devices have &#8220;fake&#8221;&#8216; buttons to let users feel they have some sense of control when they do not. Many (but not all) elevators have fake &#8220;door close&#8221; buttons, many &#8220;walk&#8221; buttons (at urban crosswalks) do nothing, and many thermostats are fake as well:</p>
<p><a href="http://consumerist.com/2010/11/most-close-door-buttons-are-just-there-to-make-you-feel-better.html" rel="nofollow">http://consumerist.com/2010/11/most-close-door-buttons-are-just-there-to-make-you-feel-better.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Cool</title>
		<link>/2011/01/23/fleeting-togetherness-in-smart-elevator/comment-page-1/#comment-703994</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny Cool]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex, I think you&#039;re absolutely right were I actually planning to research smart elevators as a field of social relations. My reflections on the topic were of a different, more general sort, though they certainly touch on the basic theoretical question examined via my work, namely how large-scale structures of social systems are mutually articulated with small-scale structures, traditionally called “communities” and the interpersonal relations within them. 

As a unit of analysis, the term and concept of “community” has come in to question and I was mostly trying to take a look at what I presumed to be a shared experience for many SM readers; and to point to a contemporary instantiation of this ephemeral, yet significant, social form.  From your  “good grief” and Adam’s introduction asking that I post on my Cyborganic work, I will stick to research, rather than commentary, in future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, I think you&#8217;re absolutely right were I actually planning to research smart elevators as a field of social relations. My reflections on the topic were of a different, more general sort, though they certainly touch on the basic theoretical question examined via my work, namely how large-scale structures of social systems are mutually articulated with small-scale structures, traditionally called “communities” and the interpersonal relations within them. </p>
<p>As a unit of analysis, the term and concept of “community” has come in to question and I was mostly trying to take a look at what I presumed to be a shared experience for many SM readers; and to point to a contemporary instantiation of this ephemeral, yet significant, social form.  From your  “good grief” and Adam’s introduction asking that I post on my Cyborganic work, I will stick to research, rather than commentary, in future.</p>
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		<title>By: alex ortiz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alex ortiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi, jenny!  know how you feel esp. on a business themed ride via the lift, in a rush.  well, change and dynamism these days is inevitable.  if i were in a situation as yours, good grief! i&#039;d learn more abt the system, their specific purpose(s), for whom the system favors, better yet...maybe the &#039;smart&#039; service can be availed of or subscribed for &#039;personal&#039; or &#039;special&#039; services for a couple/group &#039;fleeting togetherness&#039;, whether on business and/or social rendezvous...? i&#039;d try to find out more...what do you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, jenny!  know how you feel esp. on a business themed ride via the lift, in a rush.  well, change and dynamism these days is inevitable.  if i were in a situation as yours, good grief! i&#8217;d learn more abt the system, their specific purpose(s), for whom the system favors, better yet&#8230;maybe the &#8216;smart&#8217; service can be availed of or subscribed for &#8216;personal&#8217; or &#8216;special&#8217; services for a couple/group &#8216;fleeting togetherness&#8217;, whether on business and/or social rendezvous&#8230;? i&#8217;d try to find out more&#8230;what do you think?</p>
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