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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 02:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this post (and the shout out to the Kroeber Anthropological Society!)

Here is the direct link to Kroeber&#039;s piece, along with the rest of Issue 19:
http://kas.berkeley.edu/volumes/volume-19.html

Regards, Rachel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post (and the shout out to the Kroeber Anthropological Society!)</p>
<p>Here is the direct link to Kroeber&#8217;s piece, along with the rest of Issue 19:<br />
<a href="http://kas.berkeley.edu/volumes/volume-19.html" rel="nofollow">http://kas.berkeley.edu/volumes/volume-19.html</a></p>
<p>Regards, Rachel</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>/2010/12/24/a-changeling-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-703617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 02:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this post (and the shout out to the Kroeber Anthropological Society!)

If you are looking for the direct link to the Kroeber&#039;s piece, the article along with the rest of Issue 19 can be reached via the KAS website at:
http://kas.berkeley.edu/volumes/volume-19.html

Regards, Rachel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post (and the shout out to the Kroeber Anthropological Society!)</p>
<p>If you are looking for the direct link to the Kroeber&#8217;s piece, the article along with the rest of Issue 19 can be reached via the KAS website at:<br />
<a href="http://kas.berkeley.edu/volumes/volume-19.html" rel="nofollow">http://kas.berkeley.edu/volumes/volume-19.html</a></p>
<p>Regards, Rachel</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
		<link>/2010/12/24/a-changeling-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-703583</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rex, you have done us all an immense favor by quoting the passages from Kroeber with which this thread begins.I wonder if we mightn&#039;t broaden our scope a bit further. How, for example, would you compare what Kroeber says to the way in which Lawrence Stone describes the 1848 inaugural lecture of the newly appointed Regius Professor of History at Oxford, H.H. Vaughn?


Stone writes,

&quot;The key issue every historian should tackle, according to Vaughn, is &#039;a disclosure of the critical changes in the condition of society.&#039; It should be noted that the emphasis here is on change, not on static description, and that the nature of change in history is defined neither as recurrent nor periodic, as in the social or natural sciences, but as critical and, therefore, presumably unique. The subject matter of history Vaughn described in the broadest of terms, ranging far into popular, social, and cultural history in a way that would win the approval of the newest of the &#039;new&#039; historians of today: &#039;There are institutions, laws, customs, tastes, traditions, beliefs, convictions, magistracies, festivals, pastimes, and ceremonies, and other elements of social organization which are both in thought and in fact distinguishable from the condition of a national unity.&#039;

A few paragraphs later, Stone writes,

&quot;The qualities of a good historian, according to Vaughn, are three: the first is the &#039;principle of attraction to the facts&#039; -- in other words, a passionate curiosity about the past, and an infinite capacity for taking pains in delving into musty archives to find them. The second is &#039;instincts of expectations more or less definite&#039; -- in other words, a preconceived hunch to be tested against the factual records. This is a position normal enough for the social or natural scientist, but one which was for a century to follow to be anathema to the professional historian [obsessed with just the facts]. The third is the &#039;habits of rapid recognition&#039; -- the intuitive gift of picking out the significant detail in a chaotic mass of documentation.&quot;

How, as an anthropologist would you respond to Stone&#039;s characterization of the social and natural sciences as concerned with static description and recurrent or periodic change in contrast to the historian&#039;s focus on critical paths? How, if at all, would you see the virtues of a good anthropologist as different from the three qualities that Stone attributes to the good historian?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex, you have done us all an immense favor by quoting the passages from Kroeber with which this thread begins.I wonder if we mightn&#8217;t broaden our scope a bit further. How, for example, would you compare what Kroeber says to the way in which Lawrence Stone describes the 1848 inaugural lecture of the newly appointed Regius Professor of History at Oxford, H.H. Vaughn?</p>
<p>Stone writes,</p>
<p>&#8220;The key issue every historian should tackle, according to Vaughn, is &#8216;a disclosure of the critical changes in the condition of society.&#8217; It should be noted that the emphasis here is on change, not on static description, and that the nature of change in history is defined neither as recurrent nor periodic, as in the social or natural sciences, but as critical and, therefore, presumably unique. The subject matter of history Vaughn described in the broadest of terms, ranging far into popular, social, and cultural history in a way that would win the approval of the newest of the &#8216;new&#8217; historians of today: &#8216;There are institutions, laws, customs, tastes, traditions, beliefs, convictions, magistracies, festivals, pastimes, and ceremonies, and other elements of social organization which are both in thought and in fact distinguishable from the condition of a national unity.&#8217;</p>
<p>A few paragraphs later, Stone writes,</p>
<p>&#8220;The qualities of a good historian, according to Vaughn, are three: the first is the &#8216;principle of attraction to the facts&#8217; &#8212; in other words, a passionate curiosity about the past, and an infinite capacity for taking pains in delving into musty archives to find them. The second is &#8216;instincts of expectations more or less definite&#8217; &#8212; in other words, a preconceived hunch to be tested against the factual records. This is a position normal enough for the social or natural scientist, but one which was for a century to follow to be anathema to the professional historian [obsessed with just the facts]. The third is the &#8216;habits of rapid recognition&#8217; &#8212; the intuitive gift of picking out the significant detail in a chaotic mass of documentation.&#8221;</p>
<p>How, as an anthropologist would you respond to Stone&#8217;s characterization of the social and natural sciences as concerned with static description and recurrent or periodic change in contrast to the historian&#8217;s focus on critical paths? How, if at all, would you see the virtues of a good anthropologist as different from the three qualities that Stone attributes to the good historian?</p>
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		<title>By: Bath and Body ZonePack Action &#187; Bath and Body Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bath and Body ZonePack Action &#187; Bath and Body Zone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 05:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#121;&#111;&#117; &#110;&#101;&#101;&#100; &#116;&#111; &#100;&#111; &#105;&#115; &#116;&#111; discipline yourself &#116;&#111; &#116;&#097;&#107;&#101; action &#116;&#111; trim &#100;&#111;&#119;&#110; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of #aaafail has been argued without a lot of historical sensibility. I think it&#039;s worthwhile to see what has been thought about this in the past. Thanks for the positive comments all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of #aaafail has been argued without a lot of historical sensibility. I think it&#8217;s worthwhile to see what has been thought about this in the past. Thanks for the positive comments all!</p>
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		<title>By: Pascvaks</title>
		<link>/2010/12/24/a-changeling-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-703548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pascvaks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are as many fields and specialties in anthropology as there are in medicine.  That&#039;s just the way the ball bounces.  It&#039;s especially difficult to adapt to changing times, I&#039;m sure some great mind a thousand years from now will come up with a nice book about 21st Century Quirks, Rants, and Raves in the Science and Art of Anthropology.  I am, too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are as many fields and specialties in anthropology as there are in medicine.  That&#8217;s just the way the ball bounces.  It&#8217;s especially difficult to adapt to changing times, I&#8217;m sure some great mind a thousand years from now will come up with a nice book about 21st Century Quirks, Rants, and Raves in the Science and Art of Anthropology.  I am, too!</p>
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		<title>By: K. Hart</title>
		<link>/2010/12/24/a-changeling-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-703544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K. Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 10:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for posting this. I have long known that Kroeber was a treasure, but was unaware that speeches like this were available online. There are interesting parallels with Max Gluckman&#039;s Closed Systems and Open minds: the limits of naivety in social anthropology (1964) and with Foucault&#039;s remarkable discussion at the end of The Order of Things: an archaeology of the human siences: Psychoanalysis and ethnology (1973:407-422). But neither has the clarity of this personal retrospective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this. I have long known that Kroeber was a treasure, but was unaware that speeches like this were available online. There are interesting parallels with Max Gluckman&#8217;s Closed Systems and Open minds: the limits of naivety in social anthropology (1964) and with Foucault&#8217;s remarkable discussion at the end of The Order of Things: an archaeology of the human siences: Psychoanalysis and ethnology (1973:407-422). But neither has the clarity of this personal retrospective.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
		<link>/2010/12/24/a-changeling-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-703543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 09:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Rex. What a lovely Christmas gift. I note with pleasure its perfect fit with my enthusiasm for anthropology as a discipline that is both science and humanity, whose focus is best found in what Levi-Strauss called &quot;the logic in tangible qualities.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rex. What a lovely Christmas gift. I note with pleasure its perfect fit with my enthusiasm for anthropology as a discipline that is both science and humanity, whose focus is best found in what Levi-Strauss called &#8220;the logic in tangible qualities.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Santa Klause</title>
		<link>/2010/12/24/a-changeling-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-703542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Santa Klause]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 03:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ho Ho Ho, Looks like Science also gave birth to a bastard child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqufC2X3y4U   Merry Christmas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho Ho Ho, Looks like Science also gave birth to a bastard child: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqufC2X3y4U" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqufC2X3y4U</a>   Merry Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Galley</title>
		<link>/2010/12/24/a-changeling-discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-703538</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Galley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 20:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both father and daughter are treasures. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both father and daughter are treasures. 🙂</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the definition of &quot;cenceive&quot;? My dictionary is apparently inadequate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the definition of &#8220;cenceive&#8221;? My dictionary is apparently inadequate.</p>
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