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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t always fully understand the points that Seth makes, but I hope I&#039;m getting the main gist here.  I&#039;d say that this should never be an either or choice.  I liken it to having a lot of data and methods to collect it and analyze it, but no theory to bind it together or understand it. I see that these problems do exist either in the academy or in the world of practice, but I tend to think that practitioners tend to be a tad bit better at bringing all the parts together, just looking at it probabilistically. 

For Michael and John, I wanted let you know a new book has just been published from SMU Press, about the creative process and a lot of collected information from successful ad folks.  I forget the name of the book. 

I think that perhaps for the amoral, engineering aspect this would be for Seth: http://www.idga.org/article.cfm?externalid=3119

The article was critiqued here: http://psyopregiment.blogspot.com/2010/09/social-media-psyop-overrated.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t always fully understand the points that Seth makes, but I hope I&#8217;m getting the main gist here.  I&#8217;d say that this should never be an either or choice.  I liken it to having a lot of data and methods to collect it and analyze it, but no theory to bind it together or understand it. I see that these problems do exist either in the academy or in the world of practice, but I tend to think that practitioners tend to be a tad bit better at bringing all the parts together, just looking at it probabilistically. </p>
<p>For Michael and John, I wanted let you know a new book has just been published from SMU Press, about the creative process and a lot of collected information from successful ad folks.  I forget the name of the book. </p>
<p>I think that perhaps for the amoral, engineering aspect this would be for Seth: <a href="http://www.idga.org/article.cfm?externalid=3119" rel="nofollow">http://www.idga.org/article.cfm?externalid=3119</a></p>
<p>The article was critiqued here: <a href="http://psyopregiment.blogspot.com/2010/09/social-media-psyop-overrated.html" rel="nofollow">http://psyopregiment.blogspot.com/2010/09/social-media-psyop-overrated.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: seth edenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seth edenbaum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s more a question of whether you prefer to define intellectualism  as retrospective or predictive/prescriptive.  The predictive model has lead repeatedly to action on assumption, defended as pure reason, to ideologies of amoral functionalism defended as scientific and to romantic assumptions about the possibilities of science itself. The biologist Richard Lewontin is very good on this.

The rest is a bit of a repeat:  I&#039;m a craftsman, a &quot;stone knapper of knowledge&quot;.  According to my definition of the word there&#039;s more &#039;intellectualism&#039; in the craft of writers, directors and crew behind movies for HBO than in the amoral science of Ph.D&#039;s working for casinos and Tesco.  
Richard Sennet&#039;s The Craftsman, makes no reference to novelists or literature.  Most writers know that language in use manifests value and that stated and manifest values often conflict; while science in use is supposedly value free, and scientists imagine their intelligence without subtext. 

Literature is always retrospective, whether authors want it to be or not. No speculative fiction has ever done more than describe the times that produced it. Jules Verne was not an avatar of the 20th century in any way not having to do with technology. Whether Marx was better is still a question worth asking. Authors of speculative fiction see literature as propositional, ignoring  the conflicts between stated and manifest values.  As theorists, they try to will subtext away.  Like scientists, they say their values are the values they claim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s more a question of whether you prefer to define intellectualism  as retrospective or predictive/prescriptive.  The predictive model has lead repeatedly to action on assumption, defended as pure reason, to ideologies of amoral functionalism defended as scientific and to romantic assumptions about the possibilities of science itself. The biologist Richard Lewontin is very good on this.</p>
<p>The rest is a bit of a repeat:  I&#8217;m a craftsman, a &#8220;stone knapper of knowledge&#8221;.  According to my definition of the word there&#8217;s more &#8216;intellectualism&#8217; in the craft of writers, directors and crew behind movies for HBO than in the amoral science of Ph.D&#8217;s working for casinos and Tesco.<br />
Richard Sennet&#8217;s The Craftsman, makes no reference to novelists or literature.  Most writers know that language in use manifests value and that stated and manifest values often conflict; while science in use is supposedly value free, and scientists imagine their intelligence without subtext. </p>
<p>Literature is always retrospective, whether authors want it to be or not. No speculative fiction has ever done more than describe the times that produced it. Jules Verne was not an avatar of the 20th century in any way not having to do with technology. Whether Marx was better is still a question worth asking. Authors of speculative fiction see literature as propositional, ignoring  the conflicts between stated and manifest values.  As theorists, they try to will subtext away.  Like scientists, they say their values are the values they claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Powell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that Rick is raising a very important problem, one of the issues that has to be confronted when thinking about and critically assessing the ways that various groups are tackling the food desert problem or operating businesses in these food deserts. I have also read about a number of charity-based solutions in food deserts, and one common narrative you hear is that once the subsidies and/or charity money ran out, we went out of business. The viability of a business in these areas is one debate. The strategy behind a potentially successfully business is another closely related issue. I&#039;m intrigued, for example, to read about Walmart&#039;s plans to enter urban markets, which has been in the news this week. They will be creating much smaller stores, perhaps in the 20 thousand square foot range (a typical Walmart is over 175 thousand square feet while a smaller traditional grocery store is at least 35 thousand square feet, going up to 100 thousand). While I&#039;m far from enthused with the idea of Walmart tackling the food desert (and it&#039;s not clear that this is where they&#039;re headed, they could be focused on more middle-class urban neighborhoods), what I&#039;m most interested in is that they will have a retail strategy, a store strategy, a store design strategy and a location strategy. I know that charities ask for mission statements and try to make sure that they give money to good, viable causes, but this is somewhat different than a business strategy—at least, based on my experience working with non-profits that give and receive funding. I&#039;m not trying to defend or promote business strategy over charity, but I think we should recognize the differences and study them—which is what it sounds like Rick might be working on. It&#039;s interesting that when potential new grocery or food retail chains want to raise money, they go to banks and investors, but when food desert solutions want to get off the ground, they more often go to cities and charities. 

Here&#039;s the thing though, I would guess that if a non-profit grocery chain could enter the food deserts and become a viable and profitable chain that would no longer need charitable support, national retailers would soon follow and a  battle would ensue. They say in the business world that no profitable market lasts for long. 

Now, we know that money is being spent in food deserts and people are eating a lot of food there—the problem, as you&#039;ll recall, is actually over-consumption. Food desert solutions are going to have to compete with and take a piece out of the market of fast food chains and consumer packaged goods companies—national and international brands that have a lot of experience in crafting successful strategies. That&#039;s a tough challenge for a non-profit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Rick is raising a very important problem, one of the issues that has to be confronted when thinking about and critically assessing the ways that various groups are tackling the food desert problem or operating businesses in these food deserts. I have also read about a number of charity-based solutions in food deserts, and one common narrative you hear is that once the subsidies and/or charity money ran out, we went out of business. The viability of a business in these areas is one debate. The strategy behind a potentially successfully business is another closely related issue. I&#8217;m intrigued, for example, to read about Walmart&#8217;s plans to enter urban markets, which has been in the news this week. They will be creating much smaller stores, perhaps in the 20 thousand square foot range (a typical Walmart is over 175 thousand square feet while a smaller traditional grocery store is at least 35 thousand square feet, going up to 100 thousand). While I&#8217;m far from enthused with the idea of Walmart tackling the food desert (and it&#8217;s not clear that this is where they&#8217;re headed, they could be focused on more middle-class urban neighborhoods), what I&#8217;m most interested in is that they will have a retail strategy, a store strategy, a store design strategy and a location strategy. I know that charities ask for mission statements and try to make sure that they give money to good, viable causes, but this is somewhat different than a business strategy—at least, based on my experience working with non-profits that give and receive funding. I&#8217;m not trying to defend or promote business strategy over charity, but I think we should recognize the differences and study them—which is what it sounds like Rick might be working on. It&#8217;s interesting that when potential new grocery or food retail chains want to raise money, they go to banks and investors, but when food desert solutions want to get off the ground, they more often go to cities and charities. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing though, I would guess that if a non-profit grocery chain could enter the food deserts and become a viable and profitable chain that would no longer need charitable support, national retailers would soon follow and a  battle would ensue. They say in the business world that no profitable market lasts for long. </p>
<p>Now, we know that money is being spent in food deserts and people are eating a lot of food there—the problem, as you&#8217;ll recall, is actually over-consumption. Food desert solutions are going to have to compete with and take a piece out of the market of fast food chains and consumer packaged goods companies—national and international brands that have a lot of experience in crafting successful strategies. That&#8217;s a tough challenge for a non-profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;At the same time that convenience stores were becoming valuable shelf space, POS systems started provided CVS chain owners with daily data on what is selling well and what isn’t. It isn’t irrational fear that something won’t work that stops CVS from stocking more vegetables, it’s a hard-nosed, data-driven decision&quot;

This is all true, but it gets off the subject of the original post about food deserts. Having worked in an urban food desert, so to speak, and listened to the various sides speak about it, the CVS Point-of-Sale system, or Wal-Mart&#039;s high-speed &quot;on demand&quot; supply chain are only going to become involved once a store is at a place. The issue is that the stores that are there are not national chains.  There you&#039;ll have a Jerry&#039;s market, or perhaps a Fiesta (Texas chain) market. 
One of the biggest problems with these issues that I&#039;ve found is a strange narrative of solidarity in food desert communities. There&#039;s a persistent and compelling naivete among many people outside to such communities that there are in fact a singular group of people with similar goals and like interests, beyond basic material goals and interests.  In my research I call this the &quot;Paternalism of Poverty,&quot; which transitioned from the &quot;Paternalism of Development&quot; beginning in the 1960&#039;s.  The former was a form of paternalism which sought to make the poor like everyone else, while the later conformed to the task of figuring out how to help people simply live in poverty.  The whole transition is complex, so I don&#039;t want to get off the subject.  I think it&#039;s suffice to say that when a store with fresh produce gets financed and built in a community it is done very differently in poor, urban areas. I don&#039;t think that Whole Foods tries to get together a group of local residents to try to rally them to the idea of the benefits of fresh, healthy food; or, utilizes extremely low interest loans for entrepreneurs to build them. There is no narrative of charity involved. It is a business decision.  When a farmer&#039;s market, or something like that goes into a food desert, it is done in a way little different than putting in a community center. There is a paternalistic feeling of charity involved. There&#039;s also a sense that there are community leaders that can speak for a community in implementing this charity in a way that doesn&#039;t exist in middle-upper class communities.  For example, no one goes to middle-upper class neighborhoods and ask to take to the communities leaders, yet that&#039;s exactly what they do in low-income, urban communities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At the same time that convenience stores were becoming valuable shelf space, POS systems started provided CVS chain owners with daily data on what is selling well and what isn’t. It isn’t irrational fear that something won’t work that stops CVS from stocking more vegetables, it’s a hard-nosed, data-driven decision&#8221;</p>
<p>This is all true, but it gets off the subject of the original post about food deserts. Having worked in an urban food desert, so to speak, and listened to the various sides speak about it, the CVS Point-of-Sale system, or Wal-Mart&#8217;s high-speed &#8220;on demand&#8221; supply chain are only going to become involved once a store is at a place. The issue is that the stores that are there are not national chains.  There you&#8217;ll have a Jerry&#8217;s market, or perhaps a Fiesta (Texas chain) market.<br />
One of the biggest problems with these issues that I&#8217;ve found is a strange narrative of solidarity in food desert communities. There&#8217;s a persistent and compelling naivete among many people outside to such communities that there are in fact a singular group of people with similar goals and like interests, beyond basic material goals and interests.  In my research I call this the &#8220;Paternalism of Poverty,&#8221; which transitioned from the &#8220;Paternalism of Development&#8221; beginning in the 1960&#8217;s.  The former was a form of paternalism which sought to make the poor like everyone else, while the later conformed to the task of figuring out how to help people simply live in poverty.  The whole transition is complex, so I don&#8217;t want to get off the subject.  I think it&#8217;s suffice to say that when a store with fresh produce gets financed and built in a community it is done very differently in poor, urban areas. I don&#8217;t think that Whole Foods tries to get together a group of local residents to try to rally them to the idea of the benefits of fresh, healthy food; or, utilizes extremely low interest loans for entrepreneurs to build them. There is no narrative of charity involved. It is a business decision.  When a farmer&#8217;s market, or something like that goes into a food desert, it is done in a way little different than putting in a community center. There is a paternalistic feeling of charity involved. There&#8217;s also a sense that there are community leaders that can speak for a community in implementing this charity in a way that doesn&#8217;t exist in middle-upper class communities.  For example, no one goes to middle-upper class neighborhoods and ask to take to the communities leaders, yet that&#8217;s exactly what they do in low-income, urban communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Food Deserts &#8212; what if, in your neighbourhood, you could only buy junk food and canned and preserved foods? &#171; The Bovine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Food Deserts &#8212; what if, in your neighbourhood, you could only buy junk food and canned and preserved foods? &#171; The Bovine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] buy healthy food without driving a long distance are severely limited). Excerpted from the &#8220;Savage Minds&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] buy healthy food without driving a long distance are severely limited). Excerpted from the &#8220;Savage Minds&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice points. One question: Theoreticians? Or ideologues? Trying to draw a distinction here between theory as spoken from a pedestal and theory as &quot;It could be that it works this way...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice points. One question: Theoreticians? Or ideologues? Trying to draw a distinction here between theory as spoken from a pedestal and theory as &#8220;It could be that it works this way&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: seth edenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seth edenbaum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actors and critics are in a reciprocal relation.  They might not get along but critics are an educated audience and are often the best judges to tell you when you&#039;ve failed to do what you set out to do. Theoreticians on the other hand tell you what you &lt;i&gt;should be&lt;i&gt; doing, supplanting both actor and critic and their reciprocal social/political relation, with a implicitly superior pre-social model for future action.
And the new scientifically researched architecture of manipulative marketing makes the old culture of Madison Avenue seem like a bastion of humanism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actors and critics are in a reciprocal relation.  They might not get along but critics are an educated audience and are often the best judges to tell you when you&#8217;ve failed to do what you set out to do. Theoreticians on the other hand tell you what you <i>should be</i><i> doing, supplanting both actor and critic and their reciprocal social/political relation, with a implicitly superior pre-social model for future action.<br />
And the new scientifically researched architecture of manipulative marketing makes the old culture of Madison Avenue seem like a bastion of humanism.</i></p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, alternatively, &quot;Those who can do. Those who can&#039;t critique.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, alternatively, &#8220;Those who can do. Those who can&#8217;t critique.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: seth edenbaum</title>
		<link>/2010/09/18/desertification-and-problematization/comment-page-1/#comment-658757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seth edenbaum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My problem with the &quot;analysis&quot; of advertising as with politics is that the language of engineering reinforces the culture of engineering. It&#039;s like talking about grammar as if grammar were synonymous with language.  The ethos of expertise is a form of functionalism, and the older model of intellectualism is replaced by one of simple professionalism.  And with this we get corporate psychologists and anthropologists, and HTS.

Designers of slot machines have learned that one of the things that keeps people seated at their machines is the repetitive motion and sense of time, &quot;flow&quot;,  and that &quot;flow&quot; is broken by hitting the jackpot.  But it can be preserved by paying out less money more often -no sudden shock (defamiliarization)- so that even after winning people stay in their seats and keep playing, and needless to say since slots are a losing game for the player,  losing more money.

There&#039;s an amorality to expertise, as there&#039;s an amorality to numbers and to language as grammar.  But the use of language carries a moral weight and a moral responsibility. You can&#039;t speak without expressing value.  The culture of academic expertise, as engineering and &quot;theory&quot;, has never come to terms with that or the values behind their own forms of speech.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with the &#8220;analysis&#8221; of advertising as with politics is that the language of engineering reinforces the culture of engineering. It&#8217;s like talking about grammar as if grammar were synonymous with language.  The ethos of expertise is a form of functionalism, and the older model of intellectualism is replaced by one of simple professionalism.  And with this we get corporate psychologists and anthropologists, and HTS.</p>
<p>Designers of slot machines have learned that one of the things that keeps people seated at their machines is the repetitive motion and sense of time, &#8220;flow&#8221;,  and that &#8220;flow&#8221; is broken by hitting the jackpot.  But it can be preserved by paying out less money more often -no sudden shock (defamiliarization)- so that even after winning people stay in their seats and keep playing, and needless to say since slots are a losing game for the player,  losing more money.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an amorality to expertise, as there&#8217;s an amorality to numbers and to language as grammar.  But the use of language carries a moral weight and a moral responsibility. You can&#8217;t speak without expressing value.  The culture of academic expertise, as engineering and &#8220;theory&#8221;, has never come to terms with that or the values behind their own forms of speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Powell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find this subject interesting, but I wouldn&#039;t say I&#039;m enthused about it. I would agree with you that a formula isn&#039;t what&#039;s called for right now. I&#039;m interested in drawing out some of the many layers of how this retail world actually operates. I also think you&#039;re right that my sense of cultural critique—and of course I&#039;m making reference to Marcus &#038; Fischer&#039;s book—is not yet well drawn out. It still needs better articulation. To start, distinguishing shopping as an act that deserves specific attention in order to really understand consumerism and how this strategy is shaping what so many people do is a start. But I also understand that there are many different opinions out there about what critique is, should be and could be. Opening up a critical space, I feel, doesn&#039;t always have to be an acutely confrontational intellectual smack-down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this subject interesting, but I wouldn&#8217;t say I&#8217;m enthused about it. I would agree with you that a formula isn&#8217;t what&#8217;s called for right now. I&#8217;m interested in drawing out some of the many layers of how this retail world actually operates. I also think you&#8217;re right that my sense of cultural critique—and of course I&#8217;m making reference to Marcus &amp; Fischer&#8217;s book—is not yet well drawn out. It still needs better articulation. To start, distinguishing shopping as an act that deserves specific attention in order to really understand consumerism and how this strategy is shaping what so many people do is a start. But I also understand that there are many different opinions out there about what critique is, should be and could be. Opening up a critical space, I feel, doesn&#8217;t always have to be an acutely confrontational intellectual smack-down.</p>
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		<title>By: seth edenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seth edenbaum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;without bothering to ask: “Innovation towards what?&quot;

That was too simple. But no, I&#039;m not interested in a &quot;formula.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;without bothering to ask: “Innovation towards what?&#8221;</p>
<p>That was too simple. But no, I&#8217;m not interested in a &#8220;formula.</p>
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		<title>By: seth edenbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seth edenbaum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re written  4 posts on corporate culture during which you seem enthused by it and the whole culture of instrumentalization and &quot;innovation&quot;  -without bothering to ask: &quot;Innovation towards what?&quot;-  and you end by writing: &quot;Ultimately, what I think I’m getting at is a kind of anthropology as cultural critique.&quot;

Frankly, my head is spinning. I thought the intellectual life was cultural critique.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re written  4 posts on corporate culture during which you seem enthused by it and the whole culture of instrumentalization and &#8220;innovation&#8221;  -without bothering to ask: &#8220;Innovation towards what?&#8221;-  and you end by writing: &#8220;Ultimately, what I think I’m getting at is a kind of anthropology as cultural critique.&#8221;</p>
<p>Frankly, my head is spinning. I thought the intellectual life was cultural critique.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Powell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aldi is an interesting case because it is expanding into these markets very rapidly—it&#039;s interesting also that Aldi also owns Trader Joe&#039;s. Both of these formats are much smaller than the traditional grocery store, which is a smart cost-saving measure. The size of the traditional grocery store (which then became the supermarket, and now the big box) continues to grow in order to create efficiencies. These changing sizes have created a dynamic that explains a lot about food deserts. In more rural areas, for example, Walmart stores ate up a lot of the smaller regional chains and local chains by under-cutting their prices. Grocery store profit margins are so small that even a 10 percent cut could send them under permanently. As a result, there are plenty of Walmart stores on the outskirts of food deserts, but they are simply not as convenient to shop at on a more daily basis. The concept of a smaller, more flexible format, like Aldi, could be promising. Fresh &#038; Easy, a Tesco brand, is another small chain that has garnered much interest in this same way. 

But again, I think it&#039;s important to distinguish the format and concept from the details of what goes on inside of these stores. Fresh &#038; Easy, for instance, has smaller stores and has expressed interest in going into food desert areas, but the message that their stores communicate is focused on a younger and more hip, foodie culture aware audience. Aldi, on the other hand, seems focused on communicating that everything is cheap. To borrow a concept from other successful food retailers, like a Whole Foods, the point is figuring out and being part of peoples&#039; symbolic investment in food, and not just its nutritional component. Whole Foods is not for everyone—some people, like Rick, above, are completely turned off by it. But then, doesn&#039;t the same issue apply to different groups of people preferring different foods, as much for cultural reasons as anything else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aldi is an interesting case because it is expanding into these markets very rapidly—it&#8217;s interesting also that Aldi also owns Trader Joe&#8217;s. Both of these formats are much smaller than the traditional grocery store, which is a smart cost-saving measure. The size of the traditional grocery store (which then became the supermarket, and now the big box) continues to grow in order to create efficiencies. These changing sizes have created a dynamic that explains a lot about food deserts. In more rural areas, for example, Walmart stores ate up a lot of the smaller regional chains and local chains by under-cutting their prices. Grocery store profit margins are so small that even a 10 percent cut could send them under permanently. As a result, there are plenty of Walmart stores on the outskirts of food deserts, but they are simply not as convenient to shop at on a more daily basis. The concept of a smaller, more flexible format, like Aldi, could be promising. Fresh &amp; Easy, a Tesco brand, is another small chain that has garnered much interest in this same way. </p>
<p>But again, I think it&#8217;s important to distinguish the format and concept from the details of what goes on inside of these stores. Fresh &amp; Easy, for instance, has smaller stores and has expressed interest in going into food desert areas, but the message that their stores communicate is focused on a younger and more hip, foodie culture aware audience. Aldi, on the other hand, seems focused on communicating that everything is cheap. To borrow a concept from other successful food retailers, like a Whole Foods, the point is figuring out and being part of peoples&#8217; symbolic investment in food, and not just its nutritional component. Whole Foods is not for everyone—some people, like Rick, above, are completely turned off by it. But then, doesn&#8217;t the same issue apply to different groups of people preferring different foods, as much for cultural reasons as anything else?</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
		<link>/2010/09/18/desertification-and-problematization/comment-page-1/#comment-658229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCreery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know a thing about Aldi and can&#039;t respond directly. We might, however, want to consider the implications of the retailing maxim &quot;Location, location, location&quot; and its implications for local factors that may effect stocking decisions and the fates of different types of businesses as much as corporate strategies envisioned on a global or national scale. 

In a previous message, I described the transformation of our local shopping street in Yokohama as the fishmonger disappeared, the butcher&#039;s attempt to become a general purpose grocery failed, the vegetable seller hangs on and the liquor store on the corner has been replaced by a 7-11 that appears to be doing pretty well. Chains driving out mom-and-pop shops is a global story that lends itself to generic explanations. That said, how the global story works out in particular places may depend on local factors. Our dry cleaner told me, for example, that the fishmonger, butcher, and vegetable seller had been severely affected by the addition of a city bus line with stops around the park at the top of the hill where our apartment is located. Before that bus was available, shopping at Yokohama Station and taking a bus that stopped nowhere near where people at the top of the hill live made it more convenient to shop for groceries on the shopping street and shorten the walk home. The new bus means that shoppers can now take advantage of the greater variety available around the station and catch a bus that is, in effect, much closer to door-to-door service—and they don&#039;t have to carry their groceries up the hill. The shopping street merchants may offer to deliver; but that still means having to negotiate the delivery and wait for groceries to be delivered. Might have worked in the days when full-time housewives did their daily shopping in mid-afternoon and deliveries left them plenty of time to cook meals for their families. Doesn&#039;t work so well for working women who need to grab something on the fly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know a thing about Aldi and can&#8217;t respond directly. We might, however, want to consider the implications of the retailing maxim &#8220;Location, location, location&#8221; and its implications for local factors that may effect stocking decisions and the fates of different types of businesses as much as corporate strategies envisioned on a global or national scale. </p>
<p>In a previous message, I described the transformation of our local shopping street in Yokohama as the fishmonger disappeared, the butcher&#8217;s attempt to become a general purpose grocery failed, the vegetable seller hangs on and the liquor store on the corner has been replaced by a 7-11 that appears to be doing pretty well. Chains driving out mom-and-pop shops is a global story that lends itself to generic explanations. That said, how the global story works out in particular places may depend on local factors. Our dry cleaner told me, for example, that the fishmonger, butcher, and vegetable seller had been severely affected by the addition of a city bus line with stops around the park at the top of the hill where our apartment is located. Before that bus was available, shopping at Yokohama Station and taking a bus that stopped nowhere near where people at the top of the hill live made it more convenient to shop for groceries on the shopping street and shorten the walk home. The new bus means that shoppers can now take advantage of the greater variety available around the station and catch a bus that is, in effect, much closer to door-to-door service—and they don&#8217;t have to carry their groceries up the hill. The shopping street merchants may offer to deliver; but that still means having to negotiate the delivery and wait for groceries to be delivered. Might have worked in the days when full-time housewives did their daily shopping in mid-afternoon and deliveries left them plenty of time to cook meals for their families. Doesn&#8217;t work so well for working women who need to grab something on the fly.</p>
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		<title>By: Desertification and problematization &#171; Local Food Challenges</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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