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		<title>By: Kathleen Much, The Book Doctor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathleen Much, The Book Doctor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the demise of Rice University Press is only the latest milestone in a decades-long devaluation of academic publishing. University administrators can&#039;t see the value added by peer-reviewed, intelligently edited, and skillfully published faculty research.

A bit of history: The predecessors of RUP were the Rice Institute Pamphlet series and the quarterly Rice University Studies, followed by a short-lived occasional book publishing operation in the mid-1980s. RIP published faculty research from the university&#039;s founding until it was supplanted by RUS in the 1960s. Both were monograph series with a faculty editor-in-chief and a single part-time staffer who did all copyediting and production editing--and even design, such as it was, and permissions. (I was that staff editor for 9 years, in the days when over-educated women couldn&#039;t get faculty positions.) Typesetting and printing, the largest expenses but still modest, were contracted out.

The subject matter of RIP and RUS ranged from the first (and for all I know, only) scientific study of the armadillo to medieval French poetry to abstruse mathematics to ecological law. The press did no marketing beyond seeking reviews in appropriate scholarly journals. Only libraries subscribed; individual purchasers could buy single copies from the Rice library. A few issues (like the armadillo one) were classics in their field, selling a few copies annually for decades.

Distribution was principally by library exchange. In the late 1970s, scientific journal prices skyrocketed, and many university libraries balked at exchanging their high-priced, specialized journals for Rice&#039;s modestly priced, eclectic one. The Rice library couldn&#039;t justify &quot;subsidizing&quot; the press (by accounting transfer, not real cash) when they had to fork over thousands of actual dollars for subscriptions they used to get in exchange for RUS. The library also demanded its storage space back, requiring the jettisoning of thousands of back issues of RIP and RUS.

At that point, the Rice administration pulled the plug on RUS. A half-hearted attempt to create a book publishing operation that would actually make money ended as expected: scholarly presses require subsidies.

I was happy to see RUP resurrected as a digital press, but I&#039;m not surprised to see the administration cavalierly scuttle it. Regardless of the savings effected by e-publishing and print-on-demand, publishing (good publishing) requires investments of time and money. The world has changed. You won&#039;t find women with graduate degrees and publishing experience willing to work for minimum wage anymore. (Thank heaven.) Marketing and distribution costs have gone up, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the demise of Rice University Press is only the latest milestone in a decades-long devaluation of academic publishing. University administrators can&#8217;t see the value added by peer-reviewed, intelligently edited, and skillfully published faculty research.</p>
<p>A bit of history: The predecessors of RUP were the Rice Institute Pamphlet series and the quarterly Rice University Studies, followed by a short-lived occasional book publishing operation in the mid-1980s. RIP published faculty research from the university&#8217;s founding until it was supplanted by RUS in the 1960s. Both were monograph series with a faculty editor-in-chief and a single part-time staffer who did all copyediting and production editing&#8211;and even design, such as it was, and permissions. (I was that staff editor for 9 years, in the days when over-educated women couldn&#8217;t get faculty positions.) Typesetting and printing, the largest expenses but still modest, were contracted out.</p>
<p>The subject matter of RIP and RUS ranged from the first (and for all I know, only) scientific study of the armadillo to medieval French poetry to abstruse mathematics to ecological law. The press did no marketing beyond seeking reviews in appropriate scholarly journals. Only libraries subscribed; individual purchasers could buy single copies from the Rice library. A few issues (like the armadillo one) were classics in their field, selling a few copies annually for decades.</p>
<p>Distribution was principally by library exchange. In the late 1970s, scientific journal prices skyrocketed, and many university libraries balked at exchanging their high-priced, specialized journals for Rice&#8217;s modestly priced, eclectic one. The Rice library couldn&#8217;t justify &#8220;subsidizing&#8221; the press (by accounting transfer, not real cash) when they had to fork over thousands of actual dollars for subscriptions they used to get in exchange for RUS. The library also demanded its storage space back, requiring the jettisoning of thousands of back issues of RIP and RUS.</p>
<p>At that point, the Rice administration pulled the plug on RUS. A half-hearted attempt to create a book publishing operation that would actually make money ended as expected: scholarly presses require subsidies.</p>
<p>I was happy to see RUP resurrected as a digital press, but I&#8217;m not surprised to see the administration cavalierly scuttle it. Regardless of the savings effected by e-publishing and print-on-demand, publishing (good publishing) requires investments of time and money. The world has changed. You won&#8217;t find women with graduate degrees and publishing experience willing to work for minimum wage anymore. (Thank heaven.) Marketing and distribution costs have gone up, too.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ&#8217;s Longest Now &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rice University losing its wallet or its mind?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SJ&#8217;s Longest Now &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rice University losing its wallet or its mind?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] they leaked the news hinting they would shutting down their promising digital Rice University Press contradicting the will of RUP&#8217;s Board of Directors. This, after commissioning an external review that recommended supporting it and integrating it [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] they leaked the news hinting they would shutting down their promising digital Rice University Press contradicting the will of RUP&#8217;s Board of Directors. This, after commissioning an external review that recommended supporting it and integrating it [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Campus &#187; Episode 59 &#8212; Digital Replacements</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Digital Campus &#187; Episode 59 &#8212; Digital Replacements]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] How not to run a university press Clay Shirky on the future of print Mobile textbooks [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: ckelty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ckelty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for all the support everyone, I appreciate it.

@Dominic.  Hear hear.  The major problem facing presses these days is that they are bamboozilified by the language of print vs. digital, as if that were the main locus of cost control.  In reality, publishing is expensive either way, and the costs are the same whether the output is an iBook or a Book.  But people want to believe that technology lowers costs rather than shifting them around.  Nonetheless, I do think that academics need to seriously pay attention to what they do for free and for whom (and with what outcome... open access or not) and what they charge a fee for.  I have a whole other blog post about the money I&#039;m collecting for reviewing books for university presses, vs. the money I am not collecting for reviewing articles for OA journals and funding agencies.  Everyone should be asking themeselves not only &quot;should I review this?&quot; or &quot;do I want to review this?&quot; but also &quot;what does the public get if I review this?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for all the support everyone, I appreciate it.</p>
<p>@Dominic.  Hear hear.  The major problem facing presses these days is that they are bamboozilified by the language of print vs. digital, as if that were the main locus of cost control.  In reality, publishing is expensive either way, and the costs are the same whether the output is an iBook or a Book.  But people want to believe that technology lowers costs rather than shifting them around.  Nonetheless, I do think that academics need to seriously pay attention to what they do for free and for whom (and with what outcome&#8230; open access or not) and what they charge a fee for.  I have a whole other blog post about the money I&#8217;m collecting for reviewing books for university presses, vs. the money I am not collecting for reviewing articles for OA journals and funding agencies.  Everyone should be asking themeselves not only &#8220;should I review this?&#8221; or &#8220;do I want to review this?&#8221; but also &#8220;what does the public get if I review this?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic Boyer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dominic Boyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good analysis of the situation, Chris.  Faculty here at Rice were equally mystified.  I myself heard the news 56th hand from a student yesterday.  Your best point is that digital publishers need a solid institutional partner to thrive (like a library or other unit with a reasonable budget).   This is what they&#039;ve done at Michigan, what they have tried to do with some success at Cornell, and I&#039;m sure there are a lots of other experiments underway.  The RUP model, meanwhile, seemed doomed from the start given how isolated and vulnerable it was.  That said, I don&#039;t have a terrific amount of faith in print-on-demand as an economic model.  It sounds like it will save presses more money than it actually does and it doesn&#039;t save enough to actually bail out the boat.  E-books will help more but still not enough unless we can force big publishing conglomerates out of the academic journal business by moving to an online, non-profit, peer-review communication standard (see http://ijoc.org/ojs/index.php/ijoc for a nice example from a sibling discipline), which should relieve pressure on library acquisition budgets enough to boost print-book and e-book sales to the point that independent and university-based academic publishing can sustain itself and grow and keep churning the kinds of wonderful books that 100 people will read (those are often my favorites).  So, Chris, once you&#039;ve finished mourning RUP, let&#039;s get on this! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analysis of the situation, Chris.  Faculty here at Rice were equally mystified.  I myself heard the news 56th hand from a student yesterday.  Your best point is that digital publishers need a solid institutional partner to thrive (like a library or other unit with a reasonable budget).   This is what they&#8217;ve done at Michigan, what they have tried to do with some success at Cornell, and I&#8217;m sure there are a lots of other experiments underway.  The RUP model, meanwhile, seemed doomed from the start given how isolated and vulnerable it was.  That said, I don&#8217;t have a terrific amount of faith in print-on-demand as an economic model.  It sounds like it will save presses more money than it actually does and it doesn&#8217;t save enough to actually bail out the boat.  E-books will help more but still not enough unless we can force big publishing conglomerates out of the academic journal business by moving to an online, non-profit, peer-review communication standard (see <a href="http://ijoc.org/ojs/index.php/ijoc" rel="nofollow">http://ijoc.org/ojs/index.php/ijoc</a> for a nice example from a sibling discipline), which should relieve pressure on library acquisition budgets enough to boost print-book and e-book sales to the point that independent and university-based academic publishing can sustain itself and grow and keep churning the kinds of wonderful books that 100 people will read (those are often my favorites).  So, Chris, once you&#8217;ve finished mourning RUP, let&#8217;s get on this! 🙂</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Jensen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your passion and clarity. 

There are many lost opportunities with the closure, and with the lack of transparency.

I was ostensibly on the board too -- and was never contacted about the closure, much less asked for input as decisions were made.

Finding the right models that balance sustainability and openness of scholarly content ain&#039;t easy, but finding it in a vacuum is even harder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your passion and clarity. </p>
<p>There are many lost opportunities with the closure, and with the lack of transparency.</p>
<p>I was ostensibly on the board too &#8212; and was never contacted about the closure, much less asked for input as decisions were made.</p>
<p>Finding the right models that balance sustainability and openness of scholarly content ain&#8217;t easy, but finding it in a vacuum is even harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is very interesting to see a similar administrative failure of communication in both this circumstance and in the sale of KTRU&#039;s license and transmitter. No one at Rice University&#039;s radio station was involved with or ever made aware of a multi-year plan to sell the station, and ended up learning from a blog. 
Something wrong is going on at Rice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very interesting to see a similar administrative failure of communication in both this circumstance and in the sale of KTRU&#8217;s license and transmitter. No one at Rice University&#8217;s radio station was involved with or ever made aware of a multi-year plan to sell the station, and ended up learning from a blog.<br />
Something wrong is going on at Rice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Baird Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Baird Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this useful backstage account of what has been happening.  I will certainly work to support the successor press to Rice University Press. Its publishing model is just what we need more of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this useful backstage account of what has been happening.  I will certainly work to support the successor press to Rice University Press. Its publishing model is just what we need more of.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eileen Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for this post, which helps all of us to cut through the BS that might be circulating online regarding the recent, so-called &quot;shutdown&quot; on RUP&#039;s online publishing venture. As the editor of a new journal in the humanities, &quot;postmedieval: a journal of medieval cultural studies,&quot; who is also looking to found a new, digital humanities &quot;pamphlet-book&quot; series [along the lines of Chicago&#039;s Prickly Paradigm booklet series], I&#039;m very interested in this subject.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this post, which helps all of us to cut through the BS that might be circulating online regarding the recent, so-called &#8220;shutdown&#8221; on RUP&#8217;s online publishing venture. As the editor of a new journal in the humanities, &#8220;postmedieval: a journal of medieval cultural studies,&#8221; who is also looking to found a new, digital humanities &#8220;pamphlet-book&#8221; series [along the lines of Chicago&#8217;s Prickly Paradigm booklet series], I&#8217;m very interested in this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: tish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great write up of this whole situation Chris!  I hope you sent this to Leebron, he&#039;s getting a lot of letters these days.  It&#039;s impossible for me to see this as an independent action and not part of a larger, nauseating, trend.  

Thanks for the petition link ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great write up of this whole situation Chris!  I hope you sent this to Leebron, he&#8217;s getting a lot of letters these days.  It&#8217;s impossible for me to see this as an independent action and not part of a larger, nauseating, trend.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the petition link 😉</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve said it once before and I&#039;ll say it once again:

&quot;with a business model like this, who needs enemies?&quot;

A major outcome of the transition to digital publishing has been the discovery that many, many people involved in the publishing process are really, really bad at their jobs. We tend to describe this badness in capitalist terms -- poor business skills, and (sometimes) the need for privatization or importation of business models into the academy. But really, this badness just boils down to basic things like being well-organized and having some sense of personal integrity and responsibility. I&#039;m sure there are plenty of professors who are short on these traits but... it&#039;s disturbing to see administrators -- whose (attempt to) justify their existence because of they are supposedly expert in sorting things out. In the case of RUP, it appears, just the opposite is true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it once before and I&#8217;ll say it once again:</p>
<p>&#8220;with a business model like this, who needs enemies?&#8221;</p>
<p>A major outcome of the transition to digital publishing has been the discovery that many, many people involved in the publishing process are really, really bad at their jobs. We tend to describe this badness in capitalist terms &#8212; poor business skills, and (sometimes) the need for privatization or importation of business models into the academy. But really, this badness just boils down to basic things like being well-organized and having some sense of personal integrity and responsibility. I&#8217;m sure there are plenty of professors who are short on these traits but&#8230; it&#8217;s disturbing to see administrators &#8212; whose (attempt to) justify their existence because of they are supposedly expert in sorting things out. In the case of RUP, it appears, just the opposite is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Planned Obsolescence &#187; To Read: How Not to Run a University Press</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Planned Obsolescence &#187; To Read: How Not to Run a University Press]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Chris Kelty&#8217;s post on Savage Minds, &#8220;How Not to Run a University Press (or How Sausage Is Made)&#8221;. In this post, Kelty thinks through the reported demise &#8212; or, more accurately, the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Chris Kelty&#8217;s post on Savage Minds, &#8220;How Not to Run a University Press (or How Sausage Is Made)&#8221;. In this post, Kelty thinks through the reported demise &#8212; or, more accurately, the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: ckelty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ckelty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Connexions was the &quot;backend&quot; for RUP see 

http://cnx.org/lenses/Ricepress/affiliation

this is how all RUP texts were made open access. 
It won&#039;t hurt Connexions much, I presume they will be retained as the back-end in any future iteration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connexions was the &#8220;backend&#8221; for RUP see </p>
<p><a href="http://cnx.org/lenses/Ricepress/affiliation" rel="nofollow">http://cnx.org/lenses/Ricepress/affiliation</a></p>
<p>this is how all RUP texts were made open access.<br />
It won&#8217;t hurt Connexions much, I presume they will be retained as the back-end in any future iteration.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris. A serious analysis of University admin that doesn&#039;t just apply to this single situation at this one University, but sadly appears to have a resonance with other decision making processes in other Universities...

Forgive my ignorance as an outsider, but you mention connexions in this post; what was the relationship between Rice University Press and connexions, and where is this likely to leave connexions as a project?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris. A serious analysis of University admin that doesn&#8217;t just apply to this single situation at this one University, but sadly appears to have a resonance with other decision making processes in other Universities&#8230;</p>
<p>Forgive my ignorance as an outsider, but you mention connexions in this post; what was the relationship between Rice University Press and connexions, and where is this likely to leave connexions as a project?</p>
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