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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
		<link>/2007/12/10/race-and-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-154536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone have a source for Elsie Moore&#039;s study? From the peer reviews that I have read it seems that Moore&#039;s conclusions do not actually support the claims being made by the anthropological establishment. There seems to be a cause for concern raised by the lack of definition of the precise genotype of the subjects, I smell a big fat egalitarian rat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have a source for Elsie Moore&#8217;s study? From the peer reviews that I have read it seems that Moore&#8217;s conclusions do not actually support the claims being made by the anthropological establishment. There seems to be a cause for concern raised by the lack of definition of the precise genotype of the subjects, I smell a big fat egalitarian rat.</p>
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		<title>By: nxinxa</title>
		<link>/2007/12/10/race-and-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-154144</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pace Anne Gilbert, it is no myth at all.  Tanner&#039;s &quot;Growth at Adolescence&quot; is a classic source, Dan Freedman&#039;s &quot;Human Sociobiology&quot; discusses it at length.  Also check out the references in any of Phil Rushton&#039;s papers. ( I know, I know, I said check out the references, not read the writings of the devil! )

And indeed Nisbett has two studies he cites, repeatedly.  They are both about children and they both have very small sample sizes.  It is sad to see someone of Nisbett&#039;s stature stoop to this kind of thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pace Anne Gilbert, it is no myth at all.  Tanner&#8217;s &#8220;Growth at Adolescence&#8221; is a classic source, Dan Freedman&#8217;s &#8220;Human Sociobiology&#8221; discusses it at length.  Also check out the references in any of Phil Rushton&#8217;s papers. ( I know, I know, I said check out the references, not read the writings of the devil! )</p>
<p>And indeed Nisbett has two studies he cites, repeatedly.  They are both about children and they both have very small sample sizes.  It is sad to see someone of Nisbett&#8217;s stature stoop to this kind of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Gilbert</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &quot;faster maturation rate&quot; re people of African descent is a big, fat *myth*!  The British used to make the same claim about people in India! But then, I suppose, since people from (northern) India were the original &quot;Aryans&quot; these claims had to be retracted. . . but &quot;everybody knows&quot;
Africans are stupid anyway(not).
Anne G]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;faster maturation rate&#8221; re people of African descent is a big, fat *myth*!  The British used to make the same claim about people in India! But then, I suppose, since people from (northern) India were the original &#8220;Aryans&#8221; these claims had to be retracted. . . but &#8220;everybody knows&#8221;<br />
Africans are stupid anyway(not).<br />
Anne G</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Little things like dental records, Bayley&#039;s scales ( a slight clue would be that this is a source that I have actually referenced), ultrasonography studies that show that Black babies are physiologically more mature, as measured by pulmonary activity, age of onset of puberty..... I could go on but your assertion that I&#039;m a retard, as well as showing a dismissive contempt for the mentally ill, is obviously an unassailable argument, I&#039;m getting out of this before you totally demolish my assertions by saying &quot;you are gay&quot;, or something just as clever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little things like dental records, Bayley&#8217;s scales ( a slight clue would be that this is a source that I have actually referenced), ultrasonography studies that show that Black babies are physiologically more mature, as measured by pulmonary activity, age of onset of puberty&#8230;.. I could go on but your assertion that I&#8217;m a retard, as well as showing a dismissive contempt for the mentally ill, is obviously an unassailable argument, I&#8217;m getting out of this before you totally demolish my assertions by saying &#8220;you are gay&#8221;, or something just as clever.</p>
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		<title>By: L.L. Wynn</title>
		<link>/2007/12/10/race-and-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-152762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.L. Wynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;the well know fact that faster maturation rates among people of African descent keep childhood IQs above those of Eurasians&quot;?  I guess I&#039;m a total ignoramus but this &quot;well known fact&quot; has failed to reach me down here in Australia.  Perhaps Calvin could do us the favor of providing some references for his claims?  Because they sound kinda retarded to me -- yes, pun intended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;the well know fact that faster maturation rates among people of African descent keep childhood IQs above those of Eurasians&#8221;?  I guess I&#8217;m a total ignoramus but this &#8220;well known fact&#8221; has failed to reach me down here in Australia.  Perhaps Calvin could do us the favor of providing some references for his claims?  Because they sound kinda retarded to me &#8212; yes, pun intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
		<link>/2007/12/10/race-and-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-152164</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anne

These studies don&#039;t invalidate hereditarian claims. Blacks enjoy an IQ advantage over Whites until around the age of 12 because of faster Black maturation rates (Bayley scales, dental development, etc.). Black IQ peaks in the early teens at which point Whites begin to overtake Blacks. For this reason studies by egalitarians that draw conclusions about adult IQ from studies of children&#039;s IQ are invalid, and are, since the difference in and significance of faster maturation with regard to intelligence is well known in anthropology, fundamentally dishonest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne</p>
<p>These studies don&#8217;t invalidate hereditarian claims. Blacks enjoy an IQ advantage over Whites until around the age of 12 because of faster Black maturation rates (Bayley scales, dental development, etc.). Black IQ peaks in the early teens at which point Whites begin to overtake Blacks. For this reason studies by egalitarians that draw conclusions about adult IQ from studies of children&#8217;s IQ are invalid, and are, since the difference in and significance of faster maturation with regard to intelligence is well known in anthropology, fundamentally dishonest.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My God! The egalitarians are clutching at straws again. Please notice that every study involves children. This is a desperate attempt by egalitarian fanatics to take advantage of the well know fact that faster maturation rates among people of African descent keep childhood IQs above those of Eurasians. It is also know that in early adolescence Eurasian children close the IQ gap and overtake Africans. This is why there is an equally consistent gap in group , unfavourable to Blacks, among adult Blacks and Eurasians. If that&#039;s a &quot;trashing&quot; you guys are a long way from home without your train fare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God! The egalitarians are clutching at straws again. Please notice that every study involves children. This is a desperate attempt by egalitarian fanatics to take advantage of the well know fact that faster maturation rates among people of African descent keep childhood IQs above those of Eurasians. It is also know that in early adolescence Eurasian children close the IQ gap and overtake Africans. This is why there is an equally consistent gap in group , unfavourable to Blacks, among adult Blacks and Eurasians. If that&#8217;s a &#8220;trashing&#8221; you guys are a long way from home without your train fare.</p>
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		<title>By: chuk</title>
		<link>/2007/12/10/race-and-iq/comment-page-1/#comment-147873</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just recently talking to a friend about this. 

Even in Canada, it was not until I was in my first year of university, studying sociology, that I learned this line of reasoning. Of course I was already very familiar with the nature arguments. It&#039;s a shame this knowledge, these studies, are not more widely disseminated. I don&#039;t think nurture is beyond the reasoning of most children and adolescents. It might go a long way in helping the anti-racist campaigns that I was bombarded with as a child, to back them up with the rather sound scientific evidence that supports them. &quot;Don&#039;t be racist,&quot; took on greater meaning for me when I realized that this construct was just that, something I and my community had created and could hypothetically render otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just recently talking to a friend about this. </p>
<p>Even in Canada, it was not until I was in my first year of university, studying sociology, that I learned this line of reasoning. Of course I was already very familiar with the nature arguments. It&#8217;s a shame this knowledge, these studies, are not more widely disseminated. I don&#8217;t think nurture is beyond the reasoning of most children and adolescents. It might go a long way in helping the anti-racist campaigns that I was bombarded with as a child, to back them up with the rather sound scientific evidence that supports them. &#8220;Don&#8217;t be racist,&#8221; took on greater meaning for me when I realized that this construct was just that, something I and my community had created and could hypothetically render otherwise.</p>
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