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		<title>By: Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Advantages of a Low Sun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Advantages of a Low Sun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Helsinki has hosted some dynamite scholars in the past few months. Among them are: Riwanto Tirtosudarno, Alexander Edmonds, Eva Berglund, Michael F. Brown, and Anna Lowehaupt Tsing. Among my responsibilities as a junior (read: green) lecturer has been to organize our annual colloquia. I have &#8216;branded&#8217; our colloquial inquiries this year under the theme &#8220;Indigeneity on the Global Scene.&#8221; We have been involved in discussions as diverse as: the government of culture (formal [state/economic] recognition of systems of meaning as a mode and means of assuring proper respect and recompense for the marginalized), forms through which indigenous activism appears vis-a-vis the nation-state, the problem of culture loss in the midst of globalization, and the earth itself as the ground on which people create and re-create themselves (as the surface that provides traction, and see Rex here on SM on Tsing). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Helsinki has hosted some dynamite scholars in the past few months. Among them are: Riwanto Tirtosudarno, Alexander Edmonds, Eva Berglund, Michael F. Brown, and Anna Lowehaupt Tsing. Among my responsibilities as a junior (read: green) lecturer has been to organize our annual colloquia. I have &#8216;branded&#8217; our colloquial inquiries this year under the theme &#8220;Indigeneity on the Global Scene.&#8221; We have been involved in discussions as diverse as: the government of culture (formal [state/economic] recognition of systems of meaning as a mode and means of assuring proper respect and recompense for the marginalized), forms through which indigenous activism appears vis-a-vis the nation-state, the problem of culture loss in the midst of globalization, and the earth itself as the ground on which people create and re-create themselves (as the surface that provides traction, and see Rex here on SM on Tsing). [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Making &#8216;The State&#8217; feasible</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Making &#8216;The State&#8217; feasible]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A bit ago I posted an entry on traction and feasibility and was about to do a follow up when I got distracted by crispiness and Latour. But there was a circle I was going to close there and so I thought I&#8217;d do it now. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A bit ago I posted an entry on traction and feasibility and was about to do a follow up when I got distracted by crispiness and Latour. But there was a circle I was going to close there and so I thought I&#8217;d do it now. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Strong</title>
		<link>/2006/08/28/traction-and-feasibility/comment-page-1/#comment-22630</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was thinking about this post last night, and wondering how feasability interesects with a couple of other key terms in anthropological conversations about states:  legibility and recognition.  Your notion of &#039;feasability&#039; seems to me interestingly materialist (grounded, literally) in relation to some of the discourse-centered theorizing of the quandaries (and &#039;cunning&#039;) of political recognition for indigenous peoples.  Something in what you wrote also made me remember Scott&#039;s &#039;seeing like a state&#039; and in fact, Max Weber:  is the construction of the Ipili a rationalization of culture?  

I am wondering about ethnonyms across the highlands and where they are or are not salient.  Dano-speakers in the Asaro valley, for example, don&#039;t really have a &#039;we are the X&#039;.  It&#039;s more a place-oriented language (so-and-so comes from X).  I&#039;m wondering about regional cosmologies (as opposed to states) in the creation of proto-ethnicities, and in particular, about Huli cosmology in relation to Ipili understandings of their identity and cultural distinctiveness.

Regarding Chanel.  My oblique comment was meant to point to extra-linguistic phenomena that one might model notions of communicative competence and so on after, viz. the body.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about this post last night, and wondering how feasability interesects with a couple of other key terms in anthropological conversations about states:  legibility and recognition.  Your notion of &#8216;feasability&#8217; seems to me interestingly materialist (grounded, literally) in relation to some of the discourse-centered theorizing of the quandaries (and &#8216;cunning&#8217;) of political recognition for indigenous peoples.  Something in what you wrote also made me remember Scott&#8217;s &#8216;seeing like a state&#8217; and in fact, Max Weber:  is the construction of the Ipili a rationalization of culture?  </p>
<p>I am wondering about ethnonyms across the highlands and where they are or are not salient.  Dano-speakers in the Asaro valley, for example, don&#8217;t really have a &#8216;we are the X&#8217;.  It&#8217;s more a place-oriented language (so-and-so comes from X).  I&#8217;m wondering about regional cosmologies (as opposed to states) in the creation of proto-ethnicities, and in particular, about Huli cosmology in relation to Ipili understandings of their identity and cultural distinctiveness.</p>
<p>Regarding Chanel.  My oblique comment was meant to point to extra-linguistic phenomena that one might model notions of communicative competence and so on after, viz. the body.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I&#039;ve been thining about the ancient Middle East pretty seriously recently but until Seth&#039;s post it never really occurred to me but... Fried&#039;s model of tribal formation fits the picture of what Seth is working on pretty well! Fried&#039;s argument is that &#039;tribes&#039; are not a social form that preexist states, but form on the periphery of them in response to the economic and political demands of empires dealing with their peripheries. Crazy eh. Or perhaps I just don&#039;t know enough this area to really to know whether the model works here or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;ve been thining about the ancient Middle East pretty seriously recently but until Seth&#8217;s post it never really occurred to me but&#8230; Fried&#8217;s model of tribal formation fits the picture of what Seth is working on pretty well! Fried&#8217;s argument is that &#8216;tribes&#8217; are not a social form that preexist states, but form on the periphery of them in response to the economic and political demands of empires dealing with their peripheries. Crazy eh. Or perhaps I just don&#8217;t know enough this area to really to know whether the model works here or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Strong</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An oblique comment.

Once when Gail Kelly and I were having lunch at Vietnam&#039;s Pearl (in downtown Portland, I&#039;m sure I order mock chicken), our waitress was wearing really fabulous strappy shoes (they had like a two inch cork platform or something) and a Chanel belt.  GK said to me confidentially at some point over the course of the lunch:  &quot;We know that&#039;s not real Chanel.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An oblique comment.</p>
<p>Once when Gail Kelly and I were having lunch at Vietnam&#8217;s Pearl (in downtown Portland, I&#8217;m sure I order mock chicken), our waitress was wearing really fabulous strappy shoes (they had like a two inch cork platform or something) and a Chanel belt.  GK said to me confidentially at some point over the course of the lunch:  &#8220;We know that&#8217;s not real Chanel.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the best description of your diss I&#039;ve seen, and I attended the defense! Then again, since I&#039;m finishing a book on the Invention of Hebrew and the Formation of Ancient Israel, ethnogenesis within semiosis is the pitch my brain resonates to...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best description of your diss I&#8217;ve seen, and I attended the defense! Then again, since I&#8217;m finishing a book on the Invention of Hebrew and the Formation of Ancient Israel, ethnogenesis within semiosis is the pitch my brain resonates to&#8230;</p>
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