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		<title>By: Nomadic Thoughts</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-1011</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Week in Review 1(2)&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p>NT Week in Review Vol. I, Issue 2 Welcome to the second issue of NT Week in Review. This is the first full week of reviews so we have plenty of blog posts and news stories to discuss. Enjoy! From&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it sad when I see students complaining about anthro courses. I would absolutely love to major in anthro, but no school around here offers it, with the exception of William &#038; Mary. Unfortunately, they are super expensive and only offer classes during the day (I work full-time).

The only thing my school offers is &quot;Sociology with an Emphasis in Anthropology&quot;, and they have a really sad selection of anthro classes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it sad when I see students complaining about anthro courses. I would absolutely love to major in anthro, but no school around here offers it, with the exception of William &amp; Mary. Unfortunately, they are super expensive and only offer classes during the day (I work full-time).</p>
<p>The only thing my school offers is &#8220;Sociology with an Emphasis in Anthropology&#8221;, and they have a really sad selection of anthro classes.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-411</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Chuk!

It not an especial confidence in myself that motivated me to comment, but the desire not to be misrepresented!

As for challenging professors... I have spent the whole year having it drummed into me by my director of studies (who is also a professor) that the whole point of academia, is that the &quot;new&quot; challenge the norms set by more established academics in order to advance the topic. If there was no debate then where would be the fun in learning?!

Nancy, I know your comment was in no way a personal attack on me! I didn&#039;t take it like that, even if others may have. Fair play to you, I didn&#039;t extrapolate enough clarification from my comments to properly convey what I was trying to say. I&#039;m happy that you picked me up on that, as it gave me a chance to explain further :D 

Again, in my attitude to learning, how can you unless people pick you up on what you say sometimes? I appreciate you even having the time to respond to the rants of a novice!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chuk!</p>
<p>It not an especial confidence in myself that motivated me to comment, but the desire not to be misrepresented!</p>
<p>As for challenging professors&#8230; I have spent the whole year having it drummed into me by my director of studies (who is also a professor) that the whole point of academia, is that the &#8220;new&#8221; challenge the norms set by more established academics in order to advance the topic. If there was no debate then where would be the fun in learning?!</p>
<p>Nancy, I know your comment was in no way a personal attack on me! I didn&#8217;t take it like that, even if others may have. Fair play to you, I didn&#8217;t extrapolate enough clarification from my comments to properly convey what I was trying to say. I&#8217;m happy that you picked me up on that, as it gave me a chance to explain further 😀 </p>
<p>Again, in my attitude to learning, how can you unless people pick you up on what you say sometimes? I appreciate you even having the time to respond to the rants of a novice!</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK; just to carlify my own position . . . my very first post was not an attempt to criticise Emma&#039;s word choice. It was just a friendly reminder that bias comes from all sorts of directions. Any deconstruction of her comments that happened after was a response to other comments. As I pointed out at least twice, my initial comment was friendly, not antagonistic and not meant to scare Emma, or any other &quot;first years&quot; away.

In fact, as a former &quot;first year&quot; I&#039;ve always felt that it was important for everyone to have a voice and this is reflected in my very PoMo influence. 

So . . .no tearing apart of people&#039;s words from me unless someone forces me to justify an impression that I may have had. I certainly encourage anyone with interesting points to make to go ahead and make them here; in a friendly and coureous way, of course. But we&#039;re all grown-ups, right, so I don&#039;t need to say that :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK; just to carlify my own position . . . my very first post was not an attempt to criticise Emma&#8217;s word choice. It was just a friendly reminder that bias comes from all sorts of directions. Any deconstruction of her comments that happened after was a response to other comments. As I pointed out at least twice, my initial comment was friendly, not antagonistic and not meant to scare Emma, or any other &#8220;first years&#8221; away.</p>
<p>In fact, as a former &#8220;first year&#8221; I&#8217;ve always felt that it was important for everyone to have a voice and this is reflected in my very PoMo influence. </p>
<p>So . . .no tearing apart of people&#8217;s words from me unless someone forces me to justify an impression that I may have had. I certainly encourage anyone with interesting points to make to go ahead and make them here; in a friendly and coureous way, of course. But we&#8217;re all grown-ups, right, so I don&#8217;t need to say that 🙂</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[chuk -- I am also intimidated as hell knowing that my word choice is analyzed into oblivion by a bunch of professors too -- and I am one! Thanks for reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chuk &#8212; I am also intimidated as hell knowing that my word choice is analyzed into oblivion by a bunch of professors too &#8212; and I am one! Thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: J.S. Nelson</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.S. Nelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get the impression that if you can hold your own, and you know your stuff enough to have worthwhile points to make, you can participate around here.
I mean.  I deliver pizza for a living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the impression that if you can hold your own, and you know your stuff enough to have worthwhile points to make, you can participate around here.<br />
I mean.  I deliver pizza for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: chuk</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kudos to emma, a first year, who stood up to you guys and at least attempted to clarify her position. personally as first year myself, i would be intimidated as hell knowing that my word choice would be analyzed into oblivion by a bunch of professionals. 

now, as for anthropology from another first year&#039;s perspective. anthropology is really great and i&#039;m disappointed that i won&#039;t get to study more of it due to my planned focus in sociology and philosophy (both of which, i at least like to believe, aren’t that distantly related). I had a really engaging teacher and the course text was awesome (Philippe Bourgois&#039;, &quot;In search of Respect: Selling Crack in El-Barrio(sp?)&quot;. the accompanying abbreviated Lavenda and Shultz textbook was a little more boring but also an asset).

nonetheless, since i&#039;m not getting my fill of anthropology in the classroom, SM is a godsend. i really like your blog and follow it regularly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kudos to emma, a first year, who stood up to you guys and at least attempted to clarify her position. personally as first year myself, i would be intimidated as hell knowing that my word choice would be analyzed into oblivion by a bunch of professionals. </p>
<p>now, as for anthropology from another first year&#8217;s perspective. anthropology is really great and i&#8217;m disappointed that i won&#8217;t get to study more of it due to my planned focus in sociology and philosophy (both of which, i at least like to believe, aren’t that distantly related). I had a really engaging teacher and the course text was awesome (Philippe Bourgois&#8217;, &#8220;In search of Respect: Selling Crack in El-Barrio(sp?)&#8221;. the accompanying abbreviated Lavenda and Shultz textbook was a little more boring but also an asset).</p>
<p>nonetheless, since i&#8217;m not getting my fill of anthropology in the classroom, SM is a godsend. i really like your blog and follow it regularly.</p>
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		<title>By: orange.</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[orange.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an anthrolog, right? No psycholog. 
If you don t mind me articulating my opinion, I would prefer if people in here continue reflecting topics and arguments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an anthrolog, right? No psycholog.<br />
If you don t mind me articulating my opinion, I would prefer if people in here continue reflecting topics and arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ozma</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rex and Tigerbear,

Sorry, fellas -- I stand by my earlier comment.  It may be an incorrect evaluation, but I don&#039;t agree it should be verboten to have made it.  Such evaluations have a real place in this kind of collective conversation.  If we are going to generate a vibrant public sphere in this forum, we can&#039;t pretend it is disembodied brains here in cyberspace any more than it is disembodied brains anywhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex and Tigerbear,</p>
<p>Sorry, fellas &#8212; I stand by my earlier comment.  It may be an incorrect evaluation, but I don&#8217;t agree it should be verboten to have made it.  Such evaluations have a real place in this kind of collective conversation.  If we are going to generate a vibrant public sphere in this forum, we can&#8217;t pretend it is disembodied brains here in cyberspace any more than it is disembodied brains anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, if they had been given solely by men the perspective would also, clearly, have been biased. What I meant was, I would have liked it if they had been given by men AND women. Having gender lectures given by only one gender (be it male or female) AND having a female supervisor, AND no male in my supervision group, cuts out at least half of the perspective on the issue does it not?! I am happy to claim that as a fact without having to &quot;cover my ass&quot;! 

I didn&#039;t actually say, or mean, that I think that specifically because it was *women,* as opposed to men, that gave them, that they were biased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, if they had been given solely by men the perspective would also, clearly, have been biased. What I meant was, I would have liked it if they had been given by men AND women. Having gender lectures given by only one gender (be it male or female) AND having a female supervisor, AND no male in my supervision group, cuts out at least half of the perspective on the issue does it not?! I am happy to claim that as a fact without having to &#8220;cover my ass&#8221;! </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t actually say, or mean, that I think that specifically because it was *women,* as opposed to men, that gave them, that they were biased.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;My lectures, for example, on gender, were given solely by women, which of course is going to give a biased view!&quot;

But had those lectures been given by men, then you would also have been given a biased view.  I know that you&#039;re not deliberately trying to obfuscate or something, but if there&#039;s one thing that being an anthropology student has taught me, it&#039;s to always cover my ass when making a statement of fact about people in general.  

I use so many qualifiers and use the personal pronoun so much I sometimes sound like some wishy-washy self-centred dingbat: &quot;Many Japanese people&quot; do this, &quot;I believe that this behaviour shows&quot; that, &quot;perhaps&quot;, &quot;possibly&quot;, &quot;very likely&quot;.  You get the idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My lectures, for example, on gender, were given solely by women, which of course is going to give a biased view!&#8221;</p>
<p>But had those lectures been given by men, then you would also have been given a biased view.  I know that you&#8217;re not deliberately trying to obfuscate or something, but if there&#8217;s one thing that being an anthropology student has taught me, it&#8217;s to always cover my ass when making a statement of fact about people in general.  </p>
<p>I use so many qualifiers and use the personal pronoun so much I sometimes sound like some wishy-washy self-centred dingbat: &#8220;Many Japanese people&#8221; do this, &#8220;I believe that this behaviour shows&#8221; that, &#8220;perhaps&#8221;, &#8220;possibly&#8221;, &#8220;very likely&#8221;.  You get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: orange.</title>
		<link>/2005/06/15/studying-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[orange.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well done, emma. 
theres not only excellent teachers out there, aint this so unthinkable?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well done, emma.<br />
theres not only excellent teachers out there, aint this so unthinkable?</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all: Rex; my blog isn&#039;t an academic account of my life. It is an ironic and very tongue in cheek blog. The Indiana Jones image is to do with my obsession with Harrison Ford, and nothing to do with the subject I am studying! It&#039;s meant to be funny, and not an offensive, or as you say &quot;overdetermined&quot; reflection of my opinion of anthroplogy.

To Nancy: I&#039;m sorry if my comment left you with the impression that I think *all* anthroplogy departments are feminist, or that I think that feminists are any more biased than any other anthroplogist. I was talking specifically about my faculty, which is notorious for it&#039;s political leanings. 

My lectures, for example, on gender, were given solely by women, which of course is going to give a biased view! I don&#039;t see, or intend that to be a criticism or in any way a slur on feminists. I am simply pointing out that this affected my work. As a naive first year, I was unaware that personal bias would come into anthropology so much, and therefore in my first terms did not account for this when reading for, and writing essays. 

I do not see having a slant as a bad thing BUT I do think it needs to be clarfied by the lecturer that this is what their stance is, before people that are new to the subject (such as I was) think this is the only approach, therefore leading to a limited and narrow-minded perspective.

Also, (again!) this is simply my personal opinion of the lecturers that I have come across in my faculty and in no way am I attempting to generalise all anthroplogists, or even claim that my *opinion* is the right one about my faculty, let alone any other.

One other small quibble, this had stemmed from my personal blog being quoted, where I don&#039;t attempt to be objective or reasonable, or to start academic arguments! I get enough of that from school thank you! But I do think this has sparked an interesting debate... !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all: Rex; my blog isn&#8217;t an academic account of my life. It is an ironic and very tongue in cheek blog. The Indiana Jones image is to do with my obsession with Harrison Ford, and nothing to do with the subject I am studying! It&#8217;s meant to be funny, and not an offensive, or as you say &#8220;overdetermined&#8221; reflection of my opinion of anthroplogy.</p>
<p>To Nancy: I&#8217;m sorry if my comment left you with the impression that I think *all* anthroplogy departments are feminist, or that I think that feminists are any more biased than any other anthroplogist. I was talking specifically about my faculty, which is notorious for it&#8217;s political leanings. </p>
<p>My lectures, for example, on gender, were given solely by women, which of course is going to give a biased view! I don&#8217;t see, or intend that to be a criticism or in any way a slur on feminists. I am simply pointing out that this affected my work. As a naive first year, I was unaware that personal bias would come into anthropology so much, and therefore in my first terms did not account for this when reading for, and writing essays. </p>
<p>I do not see having a slant as a bad thing BUT I do think it needs to be clarfied by the lecturer that this is what their stance is, before people that are new to the subject (such as I was) think this is the only approach, therefore leading to a limited and narrow-minded perspective.</p>
<p>Also, (again!) this is simply my personal opinion of the lecturers that I have come across in my faculty and in no way am I attempting to generalise all anthroplogists, or even claim that my *opinion* is the right one about my faculty, let alone any other.</p>
<p>One other small quibble, this had stemmed from my personal blog being quoted, where I don&#8217;t attempt to be objective or reasonable, or to start academic arguments! I get enough of that from school thank you! But I do think this has sparked an interesting debate&#8230; !</p>
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		<title>By: tigerbear</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tigerbear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No evidence, Kathleen. I remember &lt;i&gt;defending&lt;/i&gt; a female anthropologist way back when I made my first post.   My (female) supervisor might find it amusing also.
As usual, Rex is right. I&#039;ve never attempted to critise you, only the ideas you hold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No evidence, Kathleen. I remember <i>defending</i> a female anthropologist way back when I made my first post.   My (female) supervisor might find it amusing also.<br />
As usual, Rex is right. I&#8217;ve never attempted to critise you, only the ideas you hold.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually I take that back and apologize if it seems too personal. It was out of bounds. Speaking of which, let&#039;s all try to avoid personal comments (which we&#039;ve managed to do so far). As David Weinberger puts it, &quot;Criticize ideas? Yes. Criticize people for holding those ideas? No.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I take that back and apologize if it seems too personal. It was out of bounds. Speaking of which, let&#8217;s all try to avoid personal comments (which we&#8217;ve managed to do so far). As David Weinberger puts it, &#8220;Criticize ideas? Yes. Criticize people for holding those ideas? No.&#8221;</p>
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