Comments on: Receivership: Berkley Anthro or DDR? http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/ Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog Sat, 26 May 2012 03:33:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Annual Highlights — 2010 | Savage Minds http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-703725 Annual Highlights — 2010 | Savage Minds Sun, 02 Jan 2011 05:04:23 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-703725 [...] an academic blog be without a little Ivory Tower naval-gazing and in-fighting? Ckelty blogged about conflict between departments and administration in UC Berkeley, scientific misconduct and the case of Marc Hauser, and the implosion of Rice University Press. Rex [...] [...] an academic blog be without a little Ivory Tower
naval-gazing and in-fighting? Ckelty blogged about conflict between
departments and administration in UC Berkeley, scientific
misconduct and the case of Marc Hauser, and the implosion of Rice
University Press. Rex [...]

Report this comment

]]> By: CN http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628726 CN Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:26:36 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628726 Point taken. And larger point confirmed. It was precisely the Jerry Springer Show-like attack that took place on the Berkeley Anthropology forgrads list on 8/20/08 that first led to email being monitored in the Berkeley Anthropology department, from fall 2008 on. The very breakdown of collegiality that C Kelty points out is why some people posted to take issue with Paul Rabinow's assertion that all is well in the Berkeley Anthropology department. There remain serious issues around collegiality and lack of respect, particularly in relation to racially-motivated verbal abuse. The kind of public statement/intervention that C Kelty made about ad hominem attacks was never made by the department Chair in the immediate aftermath of the 8/20/08 attack so as to make it clear that public bullying via the forgrads list was not acceptable. Point taken. And larger point confirmed. It was precisely the Jerry Springer Show-like attack that took place on the Berkeley Anthropology forgrads list on 8/20/08 that first led to email being monitored in the Berkeley Anthropology department, from fall 2008 on. The very breakdown of collegiality that C Kelty points out is why some people posted to take issue with Paul Rabinow’s assertion that all is well in the Berkeley Anthropology department. There remain serious issues around collegiality and lack of respect, particularly in relation to racially-motivated verbal abuse. The kind of public statement/intervention that C Kelty made about ad hominem attacks was never made by the department Chair in the immediate aftermath of the 8/20/08 attack so as to make it clear that public bullying via the forgrads list was not acceptable.

Report this comment

]]> By: Stefan http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628725 Stefan Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:53:12 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628725 You're so dramatic Kelty. You’re so dramatic Kelty.

Report this comment

]]> By: ckelty http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628723 ckelty Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:43:12 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628723 I've deleted the comments which make ad hominem named accusations, and those which re-post emails from a mailing list which as far as I can tell, is not public. I do not like deleting comments, but I think it is also totally inappropriate to use this forum for attacks on individuals, and even more so to re-post emails which are essentially private, even if posted to a large mailing list. This is a public blog for public discussion of anthropology and its vissicitudes, amongst which I do not include Jerry Springer Show-like displays of the breakdown of collegiality. I’ve deleted the comments which make ad hominem named accusations, and those which re-post emails from a mailing list which as far as I can tell, is not public.

I do not like deleting comments, but I think it is also totally inappropriate to use this forum for attacks on individuals, and even more so to re-post emails which are essentially private, even if posted to a large mailing list. This is a public blog for public discussion of anthropology and its vissicitudes, amongst which I do not include Jerry Springer Show-like displays of the breakdown of collegiality.

Report this comment

]]> By: Andrew Galley http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628709 Andrew Galley Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:13:55 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628709 The amount of racism in that email is underwhelming, to say the least. The amount of racism in that email is underwhelming, to say the least.

Report this comment

]]> By: Andrew Galley http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628704 Andrew Galley Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:31:08 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628704 It does seem like it would be pretty easy, and yet I'm completely unable to find anything about this "attack" via google. Perhaps you could enlighten us? It does seem like it would be pretty easy, and yet I’m completely unable to find anything about this “attack” via google. Perhaps you could enlighten us?

Report this comment

]]> By: Andrew Galley http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628695 Andrew Galley Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:24:28 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628695 Mm, smell that astroturf. Mm, smell that astroturf.

Report this comment

]]> By: lucky cat http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628691 lucky cat Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:33:46 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628691 What does "operating well" mean? and how do you define dysfunction? As someone who is not a part of the Berkeley anthro department, but who has heard about its toxic environment for minorities from several different students, I really have to wonder who Dr. Rabinow is listening to, and thinking of, when he so confidently states that all is well in the sociocultural house? Despite what Dr. Rabinow may feel, word is getting around that Berkeley Anthro, and particulary Berkeley sociocultural Anthro is TOXIC. What does “operating well” mean? and how do you define dysfunction? As someone who is not a part of the Berkeley anthro department, but who has heard about its toxic environment for minorities from several different students, I really have to wonder who Dr. Rabinow is listening to, and thinking of, when he so confidently states that all is well in the sociocultural house? Despite what Dr. Rabinow may feel, word is getting around that Berkeley Anthro, and particulary Berkeley sociocultural Anthro is TOXIC.

Report this comment

]]> By: Paul Rabinow http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628621 Paul Rabinow Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:38:26 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628621 The monitoring and other activities arose from the protests over the massive cuts to the University of California. Several of the leaders of the student protest are graduate students in anthro (the discipline is still alive). The monitoring and other activities arose from the protests over the massive cuts to the University of California. Several of the leaders of the student protest are graduate students in anthro (the discipline is still alive).

Report this comment

]]> By: Paul Rabinow http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628599 Paul Rabinow Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:57:46 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628599 Friends, Actually the department, at least the social cultural 'house' is not dysfunctional these days. Things are operating well. We just had over three hundred applicants for graduate admission. There are other explanations. Friends,
Actually the department, at least the social cultural ‘house’ is not dysfunctional these days. Things are operating well. We just had over three hundred applicants for graduate admission.
There are other explanations.

Report this comment

]]> By: Anthropologist http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628571 Anthropologist Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:52:42 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628571 berkEley berkEley

Report this comment

]]> By: Barbara Piper http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628559 Barbara Piper Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:48:26 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628559 The UC system's current problems are mainly different in scale, not kind, from the problems of many other state university systems. We hear about even more draconian measures in other states, and at best most state university systems are under immense and intense financial stress. On the other hand, the internal problems of Berkeley's anthropology department pre-date the current economic mess, and arguably have less to do with the kinds of crises that are filling Remaking the University, except to highlight how stressing the whole system can make local problems seem worse. Paul Rabinow's lament about a lack of faculty governance is common these days, not just in selecting department chairs, but in all aspects of the new university as corporation managed top-down. The UC system’s current problems are mainly different in scale, not kind, from the problems of many other state university systems. We hear about even more draconian measures in other states, and at best most state university systems are under immense and intense financial stress.

On the other hand, the internal problems of Berkeley’s anthropology department pre-date the current economic mess, and arguably have less to do with the kinds of crises that are filling Remaking the University, except to highlight how stressing the whole system can make local problems seem worse. Paul Rabinow’s lament about a lack of faculty governance is common these days, not just in selecting department chairs, but in all aspects of the new university as corporation managed top-down.

Report this comment

]]> By: Canuck http://savageminds.org/2010/02/08/receivership-berkley-anthro-or-ddr/comment-page-1/#comment-628557 Canuck Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:16:30 +0000 http://savageminds.org/?p=3181#comment-628557 The administration is : (1) Is afraid of the powerful anthropology dept. (2) Is getting its jollies abusing the powerless anthropology dept. (3) Is trying to fix a dysfunctional dept. The administration is :
(1) Is afraid of the powerful anthropology dept.
(2) Is getting its jollies abusing the powerless anthropology dept.
(3) Is trying to fix a dysfunctional dept.

Report this comment

]]>