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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;An Anthropologist Digs Into WoW&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Wednesday Round Up #46 &#171; Neuroanthropology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wednesday Round Up #46 &#171; Neuroanthropology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lissa Poisso, 15 Minutes of Fame: Anthropologist digs into WoW An interview with Alex Golub on his ethnographic work on the video game World of Warcraft. Alex (or rex) follows up with some comments over at Savage Minds. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lissa Poisso, 15 Minutes of Fame: Anthropologist digs into WoW An interview with Alex Golub on his ethnographic work on the video game World of Warcraft. Alex (or rex) follows up with some comments over at Savage Minds. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its funny. Anthropologists have a well-established &quot;the spiders were THIS big where _I_ lived&quot; tradition of boasting about how much they _didn&#039;t_ enjoy their field experience (one w/deep colonial roots). On the other hand, there is a strong expectation that you were supposed to &#039;enjoy&#039; fieldwork in the sense of loving the people you lived with and the community you stayed in. Not just collegiality, but straight up &quot;they named their children after me, I named my children after them&quot; kinds of stuff.

So I think anthropologists are supposed to enjoy fieldwork, but are only licensed to do so in certain ways. Not going to the &#039;field&#039; is bad enough, but researching &#039;leisure&#039; activities is worse. So I have a double whammy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its funny. Anthropologists have a well-established &#8220;the spiders were THIS big where _I_ lived&#8221; tradition of boasting about how much they _didn&#8217;t_ enjoy their field experience (one w/deep colonial roots). On the other hand, there is a strong expectation that you were supposed to &#8216;enjoy&#8217; fieldwork in the sense of loving the people you lived with and the community you stayed in. Not just collegiality, but straight up &#8220;they named their children after me, I named my children after them&#8221; kinds of stuff.</p>
<p>So I think anthropologists are supposed to enjoy fieldwork, but are only licensed to do so in certain ways. Not going to the &#8216;field&#8217; is bad enough, but researching &#8216;leisure&#8217; activities is worse. So I have a double whammy.</p>
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		<title>By: thinkingdifference</title>
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		<dc:creator>thinkingdifference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been doing autoethnographic research in virtual worlds, and i think the emotional, embodied and highly subjective dimension are very important in shedding light on how we make sense of everything - interaction in virtual worlds included. while it is true that people still raise eyebrows when it comes to autoethnographic research, it has grown into an accepted method. recuperating the self and its dynamics - and critically going back to think of them in relation to the socio-political context we inhabit may help bridge the micro/macro gap in social sciences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been doing autoethnographic research in virtual worlds, and i think the emotional, embodied and highly subjective dimension are very important in shedding light on how we make sense of everything &#8211; interaction in virtual worlds included. while it is true that people still raise eyebrows when it comes to autoethnographic research, it has grown into an accepted method. recuperating the self and its dynamics &#8211; and critically going back to think of them in relation to the socio-political context we inhabit may help bridge the micro/macro gap in social sciences.</p>
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		<title>By: LFB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old, &quot;research, huh?&quot; *wink &amp; nudge* is tedious.

The &quot;too fun&quot; test also seems to crop up in funding.  I would love to know if you write your WoW subscription into your grant proposals (or even if anyone would fund it).  Or would Blizzard ever offer someone free access because they were there for research purposes?  My guess is no.

While studying the damage caused by cruise ships to local people, environments, and economies, non-anthro colleagues assumed I either spent grant money going on cruises or got free tickets from cruise lines.  &quot;Research, hmmm???&quot; Far from thinking either of these would be unethical, they didn&#039;t see how I could observe the effects without doing participant-observation to get the &quot;other side&quot;, you know the &quot;fun&quot; side of this particular story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old, &#8220;research, huh?&#8221; *wink &amp; nudge* is tedious.</p>
<p>The &#8220;too fun&#8221; test also seems to crop up in funding.  I would love to know if you write your WoW subscription into your grant proposals (or even if anyone would fund it).  Or would Blizzard ever offer someone free access because they were there for research purposes?  My guess is no.</p>
<p>While studying the damage caused by cruise ships to local people, environments, and economies, non-anthro colleagues assumed I either spent grant money going on cruises or got free tickets from cruise lines.  &#8220;Research, hmmm???&#8221; Far from thinking either of these would be unethical, they didn&#8217;t see how I could observe the effects without doing participant-observation to get the &#8220;other side&#8221;, you know the &#8220;fun&#8221; side of this particular story.</p>
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		<title>By: L.L. Wynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.L. Wynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite pervasive, this notion that you can&#039;t get as much credit for doing research that you enjoy as you can for research that ... I don&#039;t know, you loathe?!  

I remember when I was an undergrad, I served a couple of years in a row as the undergraduate representative on the anthropology dept hiring committee and I got to listen to people&#039;s arguments about why different people who were shortlisted should get the job.  There was one candidate who had done her research in a place that is extremely hot and humid, where women have to wear a lot of clothing to cover up, and apparently she repeatedly contracted malaria during her fieldwork.  One of the committee members kept mentioning this and seemed to be arguing that she deserved the position because she&#039;d stuck it out and persisted through hellish fieldwork conditions.  Everyone around the table would nod sagely, even those who clearly didn&#039;t want her to get the job, because this was an apparently unassailable argument.  

And yet we are expected to be passionate about what we do!  It seems the ideal is to be passionate about the research but not have much fun doing it.  Hence, Rex, you might score some points if you wrote the preface of your book complaining about how much you hate online games but you forced yourself to enter this world because it was the only way you could answer x important research question.  So you buckled down, said goodbye to your family and your personal goal to hike every summit in Hawaii, and turned on the computer.  Despite the arduous and painful fieldwork conditions, you learned to value your relationships with your informants as you were warmly welcomed as first a child-like figure in their society and then, eventually, as a peer.  You emerged the stronger for it, and in the end, you were able to answer that key research question that drove you to suffer for the sake of science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite pervasive, this notion that you can&#8217;t get as much credit for doing research that you enjoy as you can for research that &#8230; I don&#8217;t know, you loathe?!  </p>
<p>I remember when I was an undergrad, I served a couple of years in a row as the undergraduate representative on the anthropology dept hiring committee and I got to listen to people&#8217;s arguments about why different people who were shortlisted should get the job.  There was one candidate who had done her research in a place that is extremely hot and humid, where women have to wear a lot of clothing to cover up, and apparently she repeatedly contracted malaria during her fieldwork.  One of the committee members kept mentioning this and seemed to be arguing that she deserved the position because she&#8217;d stuck it out and persisted through hellish fieldwork conditions.  Everyone around the table would nod sagely, even those who clearly didn&#8217;t want her to get the job, because this was an apparently unassailable argument.  </p>
<p>And yet we are expected to be passionate about what we do!  It seems the ideal is to be passionate about the research but not have much fun doing it.  Hence, Rex, you might score some points if you wrote the preface of your book complaining about how much you hate online games but you forced yourself to enter this world because it was the only way you could answer x important research question.  So you buckled down, said goodbye to your family and your personal goal to hike every summit in Hawaii, and turned on the computer.  Despite the arduous and painful fieldwork conditions, you learned to value your relationships with your informants as you were warmly welcomed as first a child-like figure in their society and then, eventually, as a peer.  You emerged the stronger for it, and in the end, you were able to answer that key research question that drove you to suffer for the sake of science.</p>
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		<title>By: Teri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article and research. I&#039;m also in academia, though in administration, not faculty, and also play a resto shammy in WoW, but primarily PvP and in a much smaller guild than you have. Interesting to note the differences in perspective, though. I think a PvP guild has a similar sense of community without as much of the intense high stakes feeling you seem to describe. I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s a function of my particular guild, or of the difference between a raid culture and a PvP culture, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article and research. I&#8217;m also in academia, though in administration, not faculty, and also play a resto shammy in WoW, but primarily PvP and in a much smaller guild than you have. Interesting to note the differences in perspective, though. I think a PvP guild has a similar sense of community without as much of the intense high stakes feeling you seem to describe. I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s a function of my particular guild, or of the difference between a raid culture and a PvP culture, though.</p>
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