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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/10/29/anthropology-as-connoisseurship/comment-page-1/#comment-518521</link>
		<dc:creator>John McCreery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we wait for the folklorists and art historians to chime in, allow me to meander on a bit. Consider a wedding, for example my daughter&#039;s.

On one interpretation a wedding is simply a performative act. If the couple both say &quot;I do,&quot; a properly licensed official says, &quot;I now pronounce you man and wife,&quot; the procedure is properly witnessed and other legal requirements are met, a new social fact has been created. 

But if this is all there is to it, why all the pomp and ceremony? Why was my daughter obsessed with every detail, the dress, the flowers, the music, the reception? Yes, it is indisputable that weddings have become an industry that promotes this sort of thing; but why is there a market there in the first place? Why did my son-in-law insist on a full-length, hour-and-a-half long wedding mass? To say that he is a member of a large Irish-American Catholic family is clearly one factor. It is not enough, however, to explain the liturgical details. And why do I see the faces I do in the pictures that recorded the event? What relationships, some deep, some fleeting, brought them together?

How could someone who lacks the connoisseur&#039;s &quot;geeky obsession with detail&quot; even begin to sort all this out? Let alone come to a deep understanding of what Mauss calls &quot;the total social fact&quot;; not just the legal arrangements that constitute the performative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we wait for the folklorists and art historians to chime in, allow me to meander on a bit. Consider a wedding, for example my daughter&#8217;s.</p>
<p>On one interpretation a wedding is simply a performative act. If the couple both say &#8220;I do,&#8221; a properly licensed official says, &#8220;I now pronounce you man and wife,&#8221; the procedure is properly witnessed and other legal requirements are met, a new social fact has been created. </p>
<p>But if this is all there is to it, why all the pomp and ceremony? Why was my daughter obsessed with every detail, the dress, the flowers, the music, the reception? Yes, it is indisputable that weddings have become an industry that promotes this sort of thing; but why is there a market there in the first place? Why did my son-in-law insist on a full-length, hour-and-a-half long wedding mass? To say that he is a member of a large Irish-American Catholic family is clearly one factor. It is not enough, however, to explain the liturgical details. And why do I see the faces I do in the pictures that recorded the event? What relationships, some deep, some fleeting, brought them together?</p>
<p>How could someone who lacks the connoisseur&#8217;s &#8220;geeky obsession with detail&#8221; even begin to sort all this out? Let alone come to a deep understanding of what Mauss calls &#8220;the total social fact&#8221;; not just the legal arrangements that constitute the performative?</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/10/29/anthropology-as-connoisseurship/comment-page-1/#comment-517797</link>
		<dc:creator>John McCreery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to introduce some ethnographic data and ask how others would talk about it. I described this case in more detail in &quot;Potential and Effective Meaning in Therapeutic Ritual&quot; (_Culture, Medicine and Psychiatry_, 1976 or so). But here is a brief summary of the issue that concerned me.

There is a Taiwanese ritual whose name I translate &quot;Propitiating Parents from a Previous Life.&quot; A baby wakes up crying during the night and seems inconsolable. One possible explanation is grounded in belief in reincarnation. Parents from a previous life are refusing to give up their child. At night, when Yin is strong, they haunt the child, causing it to cry.

I never saw but heard described a simple form of this ritual. Simple offerings of food are placed outside the family&#039;s door. Incense is lit, the parents from a previous life are asked to release the child. Spirit money is burned to send them on their way.

I saw several examples of a much more elaborate version of this ritual performed by my Daoist master. Here a god was brought in to guarantee the transaction. Gold and silver spirit money filled peck-sized containers, in crumpled masses instead of neatly bound bundles, signifying the the incalculable value of the parent-child bond being severed. These and many other details elaborated the implicit beliefs embodied in the rite. 

As I look back, I now see strong similarities with the ways in which ads are created,  starting with a roughly sketched idea that is then elaborated by the art director (in the case of print ads) or the film director (in the case of TV commercials.  In both the ritual and the ads, the goal appears to be to add impact and emotion to the basic idea. But where, I wonder, is the anthropological theory that would offer a more detailed and compelling account of this process. My mind turns to Levi-Strauss and &quot;The Sorcerer and His Magic&quot; or to Victor Turner&#039;s ideas about the sensory and conceptual poles of ritual symbols.

But that raises another issue, captured in the title of the article. As an anthropologist I have frequently heard invoked the idea that rituals embody stories that make afflictions meaningful. I am am also familiar with the idea that symbols are multivocal and embody a range of competing and sometimes contradictory meanings. But what part of that range is actually in play when particular rituals are performed by particular sets of people. What parts of the story work as claimed?

My Daoist master could offer a much more elaborate account of what he was doing than the mothers performing the simpler version of Propitiating Parents from a Previous Life. As an anthropologist with Sinological training and access to research libraries, I could add a great deal more, finding commentaries or teasing out hints in the Daoist Canon or other Chinese texts (of which there are literally millions of words that might be explored). At what point, though, does the claim that this or that idea was actually effective in providing, if not therapeutic relief, at least an explanation for why the baby was crying cease to be plausible and become a humongous stretch?

Do we have among us some connoisseurs of anthropological method who can offer a hand here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to introduce some ethnographic data and ask how others would talk about it. I described this case in more detail in &#8220;Potential and Effective Meaning in Therapeutic Ritual&#8221; (_Culture, Medicine and Psychiatry_, 1976 or so). But here is a brief summary of the issue that concerned me.</p>
<p>There is a Taiwanese ritual whose name I translate &#8220;Propitiating Parents from a Previous Life.&#8221; A baby wakes up crying during the night and seems inconsolable. One possible explanation is grounded in belief in reincarnation. Parents from a previous life are refusing to give up their child. At night, when Yin is strong, they haunt the child, causing it to cry.</p>
<p>I never saw but heard described a simple form of this ritual. Simple offerings of food are placed outside the family&#8217;s door. Incense is lit, the parents from a previous life are asked to release the child. Spirit money is burned to send them on their way.</p>
<p>I saw several examples of a much more elaborate version of this ritual performed by my Daoist master. Here a god was brought in to guarantee the transaction. Gold and silver spirit money filled peck-sized containers, in crumpled masses instead of neatly bound bundles, signifying the the incalculable value of the parent-child bond being severed. These and many other details elaborated the implicit beliefs embodied in the rite. </p>
<p>As I look back, I now see strong similarities with the ways in which ads are created,  starting with a roughly sketched idea that is then elaborated by the art director (in the case of print ads) or the film director (in the case of TV commercials.  In both the ritual and the ads, the goal appears to be to add impact and emotion to the basic idea. But where, I wonder, is the anthropological theory that would offer a more detailed and compelling account of this process. My mind turns to Levi-Strauss and &#8220;The Sorcerer and His Magic&#8221; or to Victor Turner&#8217;s ideas about the sensory and conceptual poles of ritual symbols.</p>
<p>But that raises another issue, captured in the title of the article. As an anthropologist I have frequently heard invoked the idea that rituals embody stories that make afflictions meaningful. I am am also familiar with the idea that symbols are multivocal and embody a range of competing and sometimes contradictory meanings. But what part of that range is actually in play when particular rituals are performed by particular sets of people. What parts of the story work as claimed?</p>
<p>My Daoist master could offer a much more elaborate account of what he was doing than the mothers performing the simpler version of Propitiating Parents from a Previous Life. As an anthropologist with Sinological training and access to research libraries, I could add a great deal more, finding commentaries or teasing out hints in the Daoist Canon or other Chinese texts (of which there are literally millions of words that might be explored). At what point, though, does the claim that this or that idea was actually effective in providing, if not therapeutic relief, at least an explanation for why the baby was crying cease to be plausible and become a humongous stretch?</p>
<p>Do we have among us some connoisseurs of anthropological method who can offer a hand here?</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the poor markup -- I&#039;ll do what I can to fix it up. Also I&#039;ll ask some art historians to hop on as I know a few :)</description>
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		<title>By: MTBradley</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/10/29/anthropology-as-connoisseurship/comment-page-1/#comment-517693</link>
		<dc:creator>MTBradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why, why, why can&#039;t someone fix the Web 0.5 HTML tags for this blog? Silverstein&#039;s article is at http://dx.doi.org/10.1146/annurev.anthro.35.081705.123327 and the IMDb entry for The red violin is at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120802/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, why, why can&#8217;t someone fix the Web 0.5 HTML tags for this blog? Silverstein&#8217;s article is at <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1146/annurev.anthro.35.081705.123327" rel="nofollow">http://dx.doi.org/10.1146/annurev.anthro.35.081705.123327</a> and the IMDb entry for The red violin is at <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120802/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120802/</a></p>
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		<title>By: MTBradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTBradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this thread really needs is input from a few folklorists and art historians, whose disciplines regularly engage the issue of connoisseurship and have a good analytical vocabulary to deal with it…

	It might help to inject the notion of saliency into the discussion. The details which are salient to the anorak may cross over with those which are salient for the taste-maker in illustrative ways. For example, my advisor often has trouble laying hands on many older, limited run volumes containing material relevant to the history of the Plains Indians because collectors&#8217; interest in the volumes plates reproducing Edward S. Curtis&#8217;s work drives the prices up to prohibitive levels as well as keeping copies in private collections and out of circulation. (And results in library holdings with missing plates.)  

	Silverstein&#8217;s  &#8216;Old wine, new ethnographic lexicography&#8217; and The red violin are excellent resources related to some of the things we are discussing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this thread really needs is input from a few folklorists and art historians, whose disciplines regularly engage the issue of connoisseurship and have a good analytical vocabulary to deal with it…</p>
<p>	It might help to inject the notion of saliency into the discussion. The details which are salient to the anorak may cross over with those which are salient for the taste-maker in illustrative ways. For example, my advisor often has trouble laying hands on many older, limited run volumes containing material relevant to the history of the Plains Indians because collectors&#8217; interest in the volumes plates reproducing Edward S. Curtis&#8217;s work drives the prices up to prohibitive levels as well as keeping copies in private collections and out of circulation. (And results in library holdings with missing plates.)  </p>
<p>	Silverstein&#8217;s  &#8216;Old wine, new ethnographic lexicography&#8217; and The red violin are excellent resources related to some of the things we are discussing here.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/10/29/anthropology-as-connoisseurship/comment-page-1/#comment-517602</link>
		<dc:creator>John McCreery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bq. Perhaps the real problem with my post is that it assumes that people know what it is like to care about looking at objects, whether it be appreciation for the skill with which a cobalt underglaze was applied, or the what happened to comics when they started being produced in prestige format. It may be that that people reading this post know of connoisseurship only as something their professors told them was bad in graduate school, and not something they have experienced in their own lives.

In my own case, the roots of the problem were deeper. The education I received in elementary school and high school was overwhelmingly dominated by words and numbers. 

Disillusionment with the pietistic religion in which I was raised led me to philosophy. Dissatisfaction with endless abstraction brought me to anthropology. A chance encounter with art historian Heinrich Wolflin&#039;s distinction between linear and painterly styles of painting primed my reading of Levi-Strauss, which brought me to the Overture of _The Raw and the Cooked_ and L-S&#039;s injunction to look for the logic in tangible qualities and ultimately a dissertation focused on the non-verbal symbolism of Daoist healing ritual. My accidental career path then brought me to working in advertising, where obsession with aesthetic detail is pervasive.

Rex&#039;s provocation reminds me of a remark that my friend Don DeGlopper once made about the anthropology of Chinese religion, observing that we anthropologists treat all figures in Chinese mythology equally, conflating, as it were, the local equivalents of Jesus Christ and the Easter Bunny. 

Which leads me to think that we anthropologists face a problem similar to that of therapists, who must simultaneously enter into the emotional worlds of their clients and hold themselves apart to reflect on what is going on from an (ideally at least) neutral and objective perspective. The people whose lives we share and study are constantly making judgments, including in many cases judgments concerning aesthetic detail.  Could it be that going too far in our efforts to be fair and neutral, we are stuck at a point too distant from those we wish to understand? Rendered deaf by our unwillingness to hear what our collaborators tell us if it seems to us unfair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bq. Perhaps the real problem with my post is that it assumes that people know what it is like to care about looking at objects, whether it be appreciation for the skill with which a cobalt underglaze was applied, or the what happened to comics when they started being produced in prestige format. It may be that that people reading this post know of connoisseurship only as something their professors told them was bad in graduate school, and not something they have experienced in their own lives.</p>
<p>In my own case, the roots of the problem were deeper. The education I received in elementary school and high school was overwhelmingly dominated by words and numbers. </p>
<p>Disillusionment with the pietistic religion in which I was raised led me to philosophy. Dissatisfaction with endless abstraction brought me to anthropology. A chance encounter with art historian Heinrich Wolflin&#8217;s distinction between linear and painterly styles of painting primed my reading of Levi-Strauss, which brought me to the Overture of _The Raw and the Cooked_ and L-S&#8217;s injunction to look for the logic in tangible qualities and ultimately a dissertation focused on the non-verbal symbolism of Daoist healing ritual. My accidental career path then brought me to working in advertising, where obsession with aesthetic detail is pervasive.</p>
<p>Rex&#8217;s provocation reminds me of a remark that my friend Don DeGlopper once made about the anthropology of Chinese religion, observing that we anthropologists treat all figures in Chinese mythology equally, conflating, as it were, the local equivalents of Jesus Christ and the Easter Bunny. </p>
<p>Which leads me to think that we anthropologists face a problem similar to that of therapists, who must simultaneously enter into the emotional worlds of their clients and hold themselves apart to reflect on what is going on from an (ideally at least) neutral and objective perspective. The people whose lives we share and study are constantly making judgments, including in many cases judgments concerning aesthetic detail.  Could it be that going too far in our efforts to be fair and neutral, we are stuck at a point too distant from those we wish to understand? Rendered deaf by our unwillingness to hear what our collaborators tell us if it seems to us unfair?</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/10/29/anthropology-as-connoisseurship/comment-page-1/#comment-517499</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments all -- they really have taken on a life of their own. The argument has waxed and waned, but a few points:

I like Strong&#039;s claim that my claim that connoisseurship is dead is incorrect, and that it is rather that we have become connoisseurs of ourselves and our theories. It is insightful but if it is true, I still think it is a little disturbing...

As for the rest of it, I think there has been a large clarification of what the word &#039;connoisseurship&#039; means and how various definitions of it are or are not morally unacceptable. To a certain extent this is fair -- we have all figured out that we do not wish to defend pure snobbery, for instance.

On the other hand, I think there is something a bit sad about this conversation -- it is not very helpful to denounce people who have an interest in the visual and material property of objects because they are located in a field of power (where else would they be located?) because this ultimately is a way of saying that the objects they care about don&#039;t really matter, and are just place-holders for whatever The Evil System seeks to use as its prestige good.

Equally, I have no idea what &#039;understanding objects in their own terms&#039; could be such that it was somehow _definitively_ not connoisseurship. Tim&#039;s argument that increased liberal tolerance about &#039;animism&#039; is somehow the result of the obvious properties of animism rather than our own obsession with tolerant accommodation seems off to me. Equally, I think his discomfort that we are somehow different from New Age Hippies and Tribalists gets at exactly what I think is the point...

A provocation:
Perhaps the real problem with my post is that it assumes that people know what it is like to care about looking at objects, whether it be appreciation for the skill with which a cobalt underglaze was applied, or the what happened to comics when they started being produced in prestige format. It may be that that people reading this post know of connoisseurship only as something their professors told them was bad in graduate school, and not something they have experienced in their own lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments all &#8212; they really have taken on a life of their own. The argument has waxed and waned, but a few points:</p>
<p>I like Strong&#8217;s claim that my claim that connoisseurship is dead is incorrect, and that it is rather that we have become connoisseurs of ourselves and our theories. It is insightful but if it is true, I still think it is a little disturbing&#8230;</p>
<p>As for the rest of it, I think there has been a large clarification of what the word &#8216;connoisseurship&#8217; means and how various definitions of it are or are not morally unacceptable. To a certain extent this is fair &#8212; we have all figured out that we do not wish to defend pure snobbery, for instance.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I think there is something a bit sad about this conversation &#8212; it is not very helpful to denounce people who have an interest in the visual and material property of objects because they are located in a field of power (where else would they be located?) because this ultimately is a way of saying that the objects they care about don&#8217;t really matter, and are just place-holders for whatever The Evil System seeks to use as its prestige good.</p>
<p>Equally, I have no idea what &#8216;understanding objects in their own terms&#8217; could be such that it was somehow _definitively_ not connoisseurship. Tim&#8217;s argument that increased liberal tolerance about &#8216;animism&#8217; is somehow the result of the obvious properties of animism rather than our own obsession with tolerant accommodation seems off to me. Equally, I think his discomfort that we are somehow different from New Age Hippies and Tribalists gets at exactly what I think is the point&#8230;</p>
<p>A provocation:<br />
Perhaps the real problem with my post is that it assumes that people know what it is like to care about looking at objects, whether it be appreciation for the skill with which a cobalt underglaze was applied, or the what happened to comics when they started being produced in prestige format. It may be that that people reading this post know of connoisseurship only as something their professors told them was bad in graduate school, and not something they have experienced in their own lives.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McCreery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that at this point we might usefully return to the heart of Rex&#039;s argument, which, deleting the term &quot;connoisseurship,&quot; which turns out to be a red herring,might usefully restart by focusing instead on the relationship between &quot;geeky obsession with details&quot; and &quot;anthropology&#039;s particularistic, idiographic approach.&quot;

I can see an argument that without obsession with detail what is passed off as a particularistic, idiographic approach too often results in pretty thin stuff. On the other hand, I would argue that sound and subtle theory of the universalizing sort is equally dependent on obsession with detail. Without the challenge of detail, theorizing is vacuous.

To me anthropology&#039;s liminal status, straddling or falling between Snow&#039;s two cultures, is what makes it fascinating. One of its greatest attractions is that it claims (or, at least used to claim) to be both a humanity and a science, to regard the details observed by careful ethnography both as doors to empathetic understanding and as data for testing generalizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that at this point we might usefully return to the heart of Rex&#8217;s argument, which, deleting the term &#8220;connoisseurship,&#8221; which turns out to be a red herring,might usefully restart by focusing instead on the relationship between &#8220;geeky obsession with details&#8221; and &#8220;anthropology&#8217;s particularistic, idiographic approach.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can see an argument that without obsession with detail what is passed off as a particularistic, idiographic approach too often results in pretty thin stuff. On the other hand, I would argue that sound and subtle theory of the universalizing sort is equally dependent on obsession with detail. Without the challenge of detail, theorizing is vacuous.</p>
<p>To me anthropology&#8217;s liminal status, straddling or falling between Snow&#8217;s two cultures, is what makes it fascinating. One of its greatest attractions is that it claims (or, at least used to claim) to be both a humanity and a science, to regard the details observed by careful ethnography both as doors to empathetic understanding and as data for testing generalizations.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 06:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I don&#039;t think those things Strong. Perhaps you were confused by the mention of Physics which I chose because JP mentioned it. Anthropologists do judge the objects of their studies all the time. My point is simply that connoisseur-like judging is not the goal or rationale of Anthropological explanation. 

Instead of going further with this I will just point out that my very first post in this thread paraphrases something James Weiner wrote in Ingold (1996) &quot;Key Debates in Anthropology&quot; p. 253. You can read it on Amazon. He is in turn paraphrasing Peter Gow arguing against the &#039;aesthetic&#039; approach in anthropology. Maybe it is better if you just read that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I don&#8217;t think those things Strong. Perhaps you were confused by the mention of Physics which I chose because JP mentioned it. Anthropologists do judge the objects of their studies all the time. My point is simply that connoisseur-like judging is not the goal or rationale of Anthropological explanation. </p>
<p>Instead of going further with this I will just point out that my very first post in this thread paraphrases something James Weiner wrote in Ingold (1996) &#8220;Key Debates in Anthropology&#8221; p. 253. You can read it on Amazon. He is in turn paraphrasing Peter Gow arguing against the &#8216;aesthetic&#8217; approach in anthropology. Maybe it is better if you just read that.</p>
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		<title>By: Strong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot, re: (d) above:
Exhibit A:  www.savageminds.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot, re: (d) above:<br />
Exhibit A:  <a href="http://www.savageminds.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.savageminds.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Strong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the discussion cleaves along familiar lines of hackneyed debate pertaining to basic problems with regard to the objectivity of anthropological inquiry; i.e., is anthropological attention to kinship systems just like a physics of atoms?  But in an effort to defend anthropology from the apparently disturbing connotations of connoisseurship, Tim re-enacts one way in which that constitutive connoisseurship is in fact reproduced: viz., through the claim that anthropologists do not love (or despise, or find terribly bland and boring) the objects and subjects of their studies, but simply regard them with distant neutrality.  Yet this neutrality is really one pose among others, does not necessarily characterize anthropology as a whole -- and I would boldly suggest that it is in fact one form or style of the &#039;appreciation&#039; of things that might be said to characterize the ethos of the connoisseur.  Tim acknowledges the status dynamics of all academic production, but wants to pretend like the content of anthropological discourse is immune to them.
 
Random thoughts:

(a) The discussion is made a bit difficult because Rex&#039;s original post mistakes the &quot;anorak&quot;:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorak_(slang) for the taste-maker, something MTBradley notices right off.

(b) It&#039;s not that anthropology is no longer attending to details, it&#039;s just that the sensibility informing aesthetic appreciation has moved decisively away from interest in others and more toward interest in the self.  Some ethnographic writing has become more arch, more self-aware, than ever:  and it is in the details of this *writing* that the ethos of appreciation finds material for appreciating.

(c)  If connoisseurship is not reducible to detail-orientation, then &#039;theory&#039; can be as much amenable to judgments of taste as can, say, the intricacies of the metaphorical systems linking song, dance, myth, affect, and social structure among the X &quot;(e.g.)&quot;:http://books.google.ie/books?id=NR9KCetQEesC&amp;dq=kaluli+feld&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=PKGfTlSNCd&amp;sig=WixxBo7l3YyaHG9Bz9tykmF66Uc&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;resnum=2&amp;ct=result .

(d)  The contemporary ethnographic connoisseur therefore does not display mastery of taste, and good judgment, through command of ethnography and history:  s/he displays it by &#039;knowing&#039; the mediated (narrated, theorized) conditions of ethnographic production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the discussion cleaves along familiar lines of hackneyed debate pertaining to basic problems with regard to the objectivity of anthropological inquiry; i.e., is anthropological attention to kinship systems just like a physics of atoms?  But in an effort to defend anthropology from the apparently disturbing connotations of connoisseurship, Tim re-enacts one way in which that constitutive connoisseurship is in fact reproduced: viz., through the claim that anthropologists do not love (or despise, or find terribly bland and boring) the objects and subjects of their studies, but simply regard them with distant neutrality.  Yet this neutrality is really one pose among others, does not necessarily characterize anthropology as a whole &#8212; and I would boldly suggest that it is in fact one form or style of the &#8216;appreciation&#8217; of things that might be said to characterize the ethos of the connoisseur.  Tim acknowledges the status dynamics of all academic production, but wants to pretend like the content of anthropological discourse is immune to them.</p>
<p>Random thoughts:</p>
<p>(a) The discussion is made a bit difficult because Rex&#8217;s original post mistakes the &#8220;anorak&#8221;:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorak_(slang) for the taste-maker, something MTBradley notices right off.</p>
<p>(b) It&#8217;s not that anthropology is no longer attending to details, it&#8217;s just that the sensibility informing aesthetic appreciation has moved decisively away from interest in others and more toward interest in the self.  Some ethnographic writing has become more arch, more self-aware, than ever:  and it is in the details of this *writing* that the ethos of appreciation finds material for appreciating.</p>
<p>(c)  If connoisseurship is not reducible to detail-orientation, then &#8216;theory&#8217; can be as much amenable to judgments of taste as can, say, the intricacies of the metaphorical systems linking song, dance, myth, affect, and social structure among the X &#8220;(e.g.)&#8221;:http://books.google.ie/books?id=NR9KCetQEesC&#038;dq=kaluli+feld&#038;printsec=frontcover&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=PKGfTlSNCd&#038;sig=WixxBo7l3YyaHG9Bz9tykmF66Uc&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;resnum=2&#038;ct=result .</p>
<p>(d)  The contemporary ethnographic connoisseur therefore does not display mastery of taste, and good judgment, through command of ethnography and history:  s/he displays it by &#8216;knowing&#8217; the mediated (narrated, theorized) conditions of ethnographic production.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McCreery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Given that a focus on &quot;the sensory qualities of the object of the concern&quot; is the way in which you differentiate the connoisseur from the anthropologist, what do you make of Levi-Strauss&#039; injunction to attend to &quot;the logic in tangible qualities&quot; or Victor Turner&#039;s explicit concern with the sensory as well as the cognitive pole of symbols. Is Paul Stoller&#039;s _The Taste of Ethnographic Things: The Senses in Anthropology_ not anthropology because of its specific concern with the sensory qualities of ethnographic data?

Perhaps it is not so much the sensory qualities per se as the attitude toward them, non-judgmental versus judgmental analysis. If we understand connoisseurship as judgmental analysis, then we can agree than connoisseurship is not anthropology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Given that a focus on &#8220;the sensory qualities of the object of the concern&#8221; is the way in which you differentiate the connoisseur from the anthropologist, what do you make of Levi-Strauss&#8217; injunction to attend to &#8220;the logic in tangible qualities&#8221; or Victor Turner&#8217;s explicit concern with the sensory as well as the cognitive pole of symbols. Is Paul Stoller&#8217;s _The Taste of Ethnographic Things: The Senses in Anthropology_ not anthropology because of its specific concern with the sensory qualities of ethnographic data?</p>
<p>Perhaps it is not so much the sensory qualities per se as the attitude toward them, non-judgmental versus judgmental analysis. If we understand connoisseurship as judgmental analysis, then we can agree than connoisseurship is not anthropology.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chocolate connoisseur&#039;s choice is made with reference to the sensory qualities of the object of his concern - he believes one form of chocolate is better than another. The physicist&#039;s or anthropologist&#039;s choice is made with reference to things *external* to the objects of his concern - he does not believe electrons are better than protons, or that one form of kinship is better than another, he merely thinks one is better *to study* than another. Connoisseurs of elementary particles are very rare.

I made a distinction between academic and cultural connoisseurship. I agree with the perspective you outline in paragraphs 2 and 3 above - this is what I was referring to as &#039;academic connoisseurship&#039; (although I don&#039;t think this is the right term). That academia is full of snobbery and class distinctions is not under dispute. It too is a cliche. 

I can imagine a journalist writing an article saying &quot;anthropologists are connoisseurs of the weird and the wonderful&quot;. Given a society that eats beefs and sometimes humans, the anthropologist will tend to write about cannibalism. But this is not an act of connoisseurship. It is about the anthropological rationale.

What is the rationale of Anthropology? It is to explain and understand difference, so that we can avoid judging that difference according to our own cultural (or aesthetic) criteria. Individual anthropologists have not always lived up to this rationale, but there is a clear historical progression in anthropology towards achieving it. Take animism for example: from an abomination (kill em all), to a category mistake made by child-like savages (educate them), to a symbolic discourse (they are just like us), to a recognition of the social agency of non-human actors (or are we just like them?).
I am not appealing to the &#039;cliche&#039; or &#039;straw-man&#039; of relativism. Relativism gives up any hope of explanation or understanding. It has no project.

New Age hippies and Tribalists are cultural connoissuers - they cherry-pick valorised bits of cultural difference. Anthropology on the other hand seeks to understand that difference on its own terms. Anthropology is not connoisseurship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chocolate connoisseur&#8217;s choice is made with reference to the sensory qualities of the object of his concern &#8211; he believes one form of chocolate is better than another. The physicist&#8217;s or anthropologist&#8217;s choice is made with reference to things *external* to the objects of his concern &#8211; he does not believe electrons are better than protons, or that one form of kinship is better than another, he merely thinks one is better *to study* than another. Connoisseurs of elementary particles are very rare.</p>
<p>I made a distinction between academic and cultural connoisseurship. I agree with the perspective you outline in paragraphs 2 and 3 above &#8211; this is what I was referring to as &#8216;academic connoisseurship&#8217; (although I don&#8217;t think this is the right term). That academia is full of snobbery and class distinctions is not under dispute. It too is a cliche. </p>
<p>I can imagine a journalist writing an article saying &#8220;anthropologists are connoisseurs of the weird and the wonderful&#8221;. Given a society that eats beefs and sometimes humans, the anthropologist will tend to write about cannibalism. But this is not an act of connoisseurship. It is about the anthropological rationale.</p>
<p>What is the rationale of Anthropology? It is to explain and understand difference, so that we can avoid judging that difference according to our own cultural (or aesthetic) criteria. Individual anthropologists have not always lived up to this rationale, but there is a clear historical progression in anthropology towards achieving it. Take animism for example: from an abomination (kill em all), to a category mistake made by child-like savages (educate them), to a symbolic discourse (they are just like us), to a recognition of the social agency of non-human actors (or are we just like them?).<br />
I am not appealing to the &#8216;cliche&#8217; or &#8217;straw-man&#8217; of relativism. Relativism gives up any hope of explanation or understanding. It has no project.</p>
<p>New Age hippies and Tribalists are cultural connoissuers &#8211; they cherry-pick valorised bits of cultural difference. Anthropology on the other hand seeks to understand that difference on its own terms. Anthropology is not connoisseurship.</p>
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		<title>By: John McCreery</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McCreery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Please elaborate your distinction between aesthetic and other forms of judgment. You assert, as if it were simply a matter of fact, that the physicist choice of electrons or the anthropologist&#039;s choice of Hawaiian kinship is somehow essentially different from your preference for Amedei instead of Hershey&#039;s chocolate. But wherein does this essential difference lie? Both, I counter, are equally examples of &quot;routine valorised judgements which underlie and reinforce social and class distinctions,&quot; albeit in what are conventionally seen as different social domains. I do, however, worry about that word &quot;routine,&quot; since it seems to me to privilege the context instead of the choice.

The young scholar&#039;s choice is partly constrained by the rules that structure the field in which she is playing. Another factor is the current state of the game, which topics are currently hot and likely to improve her professional standing. A third is personal preference, arising from God knows what biographical or genetic circumstances. But the outcome of the choice will certainly affect and probably reinforce social and class distinctions: her identification as a good or bad example of a member of her discipline resulting in her being employed or unemployed, promoted or not promoted (and the last time I looked, adjunct, assistant, tenured associate and full professor were very clear examples of class distinctions).

How is this sociologically different from, say, attending wine tastings and choosing and praising particular wines, an exercise that, while it does, indeed, require familiarity with certain routines (swirling, sniffing, sipping, spitting out the wine that is tasted, for example), also involves choices that affect reputation and may lead to formal recognition as a qualified sommelier or even a master of wine?

Fundamentally, I thought Rex raised an interesting question that you moved too quickly to dismiss by appealing to an academic cliché that, like all customs and habits, deserves to be explored with a sympathetic but critical anthropological eye. If nothing human is foreign to us, surely that includes our own scholarly customs and habits as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Please elaborate your distinction between aesthetic and other forms of judgment. You assert, as if it were simply a matter of fact, that the physicist choice of electrons or the anthropologist&#8217;s choice of Hawaiian kinship is somehow essentially different from your preference for Amedei instead of Hershey&#8217;s chocolate. But wherein does this essential difference lie? Both, I counter, are equally examples of &#8220;routine valorised judgements which underlie and reinforce social and class distinctions,&#8221; albeit in what are conventionally seen as different social domains. I do, however, worry about that word &#8220;routine,&#8221; since it seems to me to privilege the context instead of the choice.</p>
<p>The young scholar&#8217;s choice is partly constrained by the rules that structure the field in which she is playing. Another factor is the current state of the game, which topics are currently hot and likely to improve her professional standing. A third is personal preference, arising from God knows what biographical or genetic circumstances. But the outcome of the choice will certainly affect and probably reinforce social and class distinctions: her identification as a good or bad example of a member of her discipline resulting in her being employed or unemployed, promoted or not promoted (and the last time I looked, adjunct, assistant, tenured associate and full professor were very clear examples of class distinctions).</p>
<p>How is this sociologically different from, say, attending wine tastings and choosing and praising particular wines, an exercise that, while it does, indeed, require familiarity with certain routines (swirling, sniffing, sipping, spitting out the wine that is tasted, for example), also involves choices that affect reputation and may lead to formal recognition as a qualified sommelier or even a master of wine?</p>
<p>Fundamentally, I thought Rex raised an interesting question that you moved too quickly to dismiss by appealing to an academic cliché that, like all customs and habits, deserves to be explored with a sympathetic but critical anthropological eye. If nothing human is foreign to us, surely that includes our own scholarly customs and habits as well.</p>
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		<title>By: MTBradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTBradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(And we even cite OED authorities to back up these anti-judgment judgments!)&quot;

I wasn&#039;t saying &quot;&#039;connoisseurship&#039; means X because the OED says so,&quot; I was just using part of the OED definition for &#039;connoisseur&#039; to try and clarify my statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(And we even cite OED authorities to back up these anti-judgment judgments!)&#8221;</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t saying &#8220;&#8216;connoisseurship&#8217; means X because the OED says so,&#8221; I was just using part of the OED definition for &#8216;connoisseur&#8217; to try and clarify my statement.</p>
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