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	<title>Comments on: Well I guess we should say something about the Olympics</title>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/08/12/well-i-guess-we-should-say-something-about-the-olympics/comment-page-1/#comment-478183</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised that it took until the 18th comment for anyone to say that the agency/structure of the conjuncture debate seem academic in the pejorative sense, given that all the countries in the Olympics spend so much money on a bunch of games in a world afflicted with poverty, pollution, hatred, and corruption. All those resources could have gone towards supporting free health care for all, independent media, public transit infrastructure, free tuition, community-supported agriculture, independent artists, locally owned co-op businesses, affordable food and housing for all, lobbying against corporate control of governments and media, labour unions, student unions, women&#039;s groups, queer rights, anti-racist groups, therapy for survivors of trauma, or any number of other equitable, sustainable, peaceful projects. While these scholarly/theoretical questions are interesting for me, too, peace, health, and equity are compelling and exciting. I know I&#039;m not the only anthropologist who is in the theory and research game as a means to improving the big- and small- &quot;a&quot; activism of myself and others.

The Olympics has a dirty history in every host city. Poor people get shipped out or thrown in jail, very often. &quot;Stimulation&quot; of the local economy usually does not result in a reduction of poverty after the games. New buildings usually do not provide public access or housing for the poor after the games.

The country where I work has never hosted the games, but an incredible amount of money is poured into its very successful football team. I&#039;m not saying there shouldn&#039;t be games or teams at all because they do a lot of good for some people, but they&#039;re often taking money away from human rights protection and the basics of life; that&#039;s not okay, I don&#039;t think. In this same country where I work, the President hasn&#039;t changed in 20 years, old-growth forests are being clear-cut, private British and American companies are making a killing providing terrible utilities services, and police routinely extort illegal payments from frightened poor people.

Even if you don&#039;t work with a threatened, marginalized, or poor community, you do share a planet with everyone and it&#039;s an ethical imperative that we act on the fact that we&#039;re all in this together. To me, that means fostering knowledge, kindness, and generosity, which I understand and apply psychospiritually, micro-interactively, ecologically, and structurally/systematically. And THAT means, I think, speaking out against one or more of the injustices associated with the Olympics before getting to the fun of theorizing the Olympics. Read &quot;Hope&#039;s Edge&quot; by Lappe and Lappe and &quot;The Anti-Politics Machine&quot; by Ferguson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that it took until the 18th comment for anyone to say that the agency/structure of the conjuncture debate seem academic in the pejorative sense, given that all the countries in the Olympics spend so much money on a bunch of games in a world afflicted with poverty, pollution, hatred, and corruption. All those resources could have gone towards supporting free health care for all, independent media, public transit infrastructure, free tuition, community-supported agriculture, independent artists, locally owned co-op businesses, affordable food and housing for all, lobbying against corporate control of governments and media, labour unions, student unions, women&#8217;s groups, queer rights, anti-racist groups, therapy for survivors of trauma, or any number of other equitable, sustainable, peaceful projects. While these scholarly/theoretical questions are interesting for me, too, peace, health, and equity are compelling and exciting. I know I&#8217;m not the only anthropologist who is in the theory and research game as a means to improving the big- and small- &#8220;a&#8221; activism of myself and others.</p>
<p>The Olympics has a dirty history in every host city. Poor people get shipped out or thrown in jail, very often. &#8220;Stimulation&#8221; of the local economy usually does not result in a reduction of poverty after the games. New buildings usually do not provide public access or housing for the poor after the games.</p>
<p>The country where I work has never hosted the games, but an incredible amount of money is poured into its very successful football team. I&#8217;m not saying there shouldn&#8217;t be games or teams at all because they do a lot of good for some people, but they&#8217;re often taking money away from human rights protection and the basics of life; that&#8217;s not okay, I don&#8217;t think. In this same country where I work, the President hasn&#8217;t changed in 20 years, old-growth forests are being clear-cut, private British and American companies are making a killing providing terrible utilities services, and police routinely extort illegal payments from frightened poor people.</p>
<p>Even if you don&#8217;t work with a threatened, marginalized, or poor community, you do share a planet with everyone and it&#8217;s an ethical imperative that we act on the fact that we&#8217;re all in this together. To me, that means fostering knowledge, kindness, and generosity, which I understand and apply psychospiritually, micro-interactively, ecologically, and structurally/systematically. And THAT means, I think, speaking out against one or more of the injustices associated with the Olympics before getting to the fun of theorizing the Olympics. Read &#8220;Hope&#8217;s Edge&#8221; by Lappe and Lappe and &#8220;The Anti-Politics Machine&#8221; by Ferguson.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuji Lozada</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/08/12/well-i-guess-we-should-say-something-about-the-olympics/comment-page-1/#comment-474034</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuji Lozada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, here&#039;s the cut/paste link - my comment didn&#039;t take the html link.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/july-dec08/athleteschina_08-14.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, here&#8217;s the cut/paste link &#8211; my comment didn&#8217;t take the html link.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/july-dec08/athleteschina_08-14.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/july-dec08/athleteschina_08-14.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fuji Lozada</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/08/12/well-i-guess-we-should-say-something-about-the-olympics/comment-page-1/#comment-474033</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuji Lozada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan Brownell on PBS&#039;s News Hour
In case you missed it, above is the link to a videocast of Brownell&#039;s interview; she is clearly the one person most knowledgeable about the story behind the Beijing Olympics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan Brownell on PBS&#8217;s News Hour<br />
In case you missed it, above is the link to a videocast of Brownell&#8217;s interview; she is clearly the one person most knowledgeable about the story behind the Beijing Olympics.</p>
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		<title>By: MTBradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTBradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the links below are any indication it seems that Internet viewership of the Olympics—and, more importantly, network executives&#039; notice of the volume of that viewership—may presage how we will be watching TV in the near future. Which presages a semantic question: Is watching hulu watching TV or watching internet?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d5c43928-69a2-11dd-91bd-0000779fd18c.html

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080808.wgtolyonline0808/BNStory/Technology/home

Surely Chris Kelty wants to weigh in at this point…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the links below are any indication it seems that Internet viewership of the Olympics—and, more importantly, network executives&#8217; notice of the volume of that viewership—may presage how we will be watching TV in the near future. Which presages a semantic question: Is watching hulu watching TV or watching internet?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d5c43928-69a2-11dd-91bd-0000779fd18c.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d5c43928-69a2-11dd-91bd-0000779fd18c.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080808.wgtolyonline0808/BNStory/Technology/home" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080808.wgtolyonline0808/BNStory/Technology/home</a></p>
<p>Surely Chris Kelty wants to weigh in at this point…</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/08/12/well-i-guess-we-should-say-something-about-the-olympics/comment-page-1/#comment-472071</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure! Is this why we don&#039;t consider the sporting agency of athletes to be impaired by performance-enhancing relationship nexuses, even though this is obviously the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure! Is this why we don&#8217;t consider the sporting agency of athletes to be impaired by performance-enhancing relationship nexuses, even though this is obviously the case?</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/08/12/well-i-guess-we-should-say-something-about-the-olympics/comment-page-1/#comment-472039</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you know one of the things that everyone says about Papua New Guinea, where I do my work, is that people there see bodies are locations for the crystallization of networks of relations and substances -- fathers, uncles, meat, milk, pigs, shells, cash, etc. So I think that &#039;athlete as nexus of relationships&#039; doesn&#039;t make us transhuman -- just human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you know one of the things that everyone says about Papua New Guinea, where I do my work, is that people there see bodies are locations for the crystallization of networks of relations and substances &#8212; fathers, uncles, meat, milk, pigs, shells, cash, etc. So I think that &#8216;athlete as nexus of relationships&#8217; doesn&#8217;t make us transhuman &#8212; just human.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. I wonder if we could link this up somehow to Chris&#039; transhumanism post. There does seems to be a species and agency essentialism at work, which also gets back to your great image of the support and conditions gun firing out swimmers. 

Btw, Tim your links are cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. I wonder if we could link this up somehow to Chris&#8217; transhumanism post. There does seems to be a species and agency essentialism at work, which also gets back to your great image of the support and conditions gun firing out swimmers. </p>
<p>Btw, Tim your links are cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah -- note to self: when fighting a modern war, put radios in your tanks.

The other thing that I haven&#039;t seen get a lot of press is the issue of doping. On the one hand we have athletes who -- I imagine -- see their bodies in a very &#039;Strathernian&#039; way: subject to endless work and modification by all sorts of people, chemicals, etc. etc. On the other hand we have rules which focus around &#039;individual&#039; achievement and which makes using drugs to enhance performance seem unethical, because these substances somehow modify the body/subjectivity of the athlete in a way that compromises the idea that they are an autonomous, achieving actor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8212; note to self: when fighting a modern war, put radios in your tanks.</p>
<p>The other thing that I haven&#8217;t seen get a lot of press is the issue of doping. On the one hand we have athletes who &#8212; I imagine &#8212; see their bodies in a very &#8216;Strathernian&#8217; way: subject to endless work and modification by all sorts of people, chemicals, etc. etc. On the other hand we have rules which focus around &#8216;individual&#8217; achievement and which makes using drugs to enhance performance seem unethical, because these substances somehow modify the body/subjectivity of the athlete in a way that compromises the idea that they are an autonomous, achieving actor.</p>
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		<title>By: tyrone shoelaces</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/08/12/well-i-guess-we-should-say-something-about-the-olympics/comment-page-1/#comment-471930</link>
		<dc:creator>tyrone shoelaces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! A Gravity&#039;s Rainbow reference!

Rex, you&#039;re right. But I&#039;m not sure that scaling occurs in coordinated systems between 200 and 2000. I&#039;m not even sure that getting a million men with guns across the Yalu River encounters any scale thresholds. As long as each unit in the system has a trainable lockstep function and rigorously controlled inputs (the earpieces, which I suspect were just stage monitors so they could keep on their counts without losing time to sound difraction in that big space) the dynamic is merely additive.

Where you get scale effects is in networked systems subject to chaotic inputs. Those systems are based on a looser feedback model sensitive both to initial conditions and evolving fluxes. So the coordination dynamic is not merely additive because each new unit you plug in adds a variable. The coordination comes not from rigid task closure but the global mission definition within which the improvisations are occurring. There were no improvisations during that opening ceremony.

The famous macro-example of system coordination vs. network coordination is the blitzkrieg. The French were locked into a rigid command hierarchy and task closure based on a detailed but static definition of the situation. They were broken the moment the Germans, whose command model was more fluid, succeeded in changing the situation and exploiting its evolution.

At a micro-level I heard an interesting example of this from the Games. It turns out Michael Phelps is the kind of guy who thrives on routine. He has a procedure locked in and does the same thing every time. He&#039;s the Maginot Line of swimming, and he&#039;s formidable because the rules of the situation are locked in so that all of the variables can actually be pre-managed. In contrast, his closest competitor Ryan Lochte has no routine. He says he sees the water and visualizes going fast, then just does it. If the swimming was not happening in lanes he&#039;d beat Phelps every time.

In Chinese cultural history this is like the difference between a Confucian (or better, a Legalist) and a Daoist, which brings me back to the original point that although the Chinese are indeed particularly good at large-scale systems coordination, because of their historical success in controlling input variables for long periods, they&#039;ve also had some big shakeups; and like any culture that has coped with uncontrolled variables they also have resources of network coordination to call upon. Of course the same is true for the United States, which may default to network coordination but is perfectly capable of systems coordination when that&#039;s what&#039;s called for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! A Gravity&#8217;s Rainbow reference!</p>
<p>Rex, you&#8217;re right. But I&#8217;m not sure that scaling occurs in coordinated systems between 200 and 2000. I&#8217;m not even sure that getting a million men with guns across the Yalu River encounters any scale thresholds. As long as each unit in the system has a trainable lockstep function and rigorously controlled inputs (the earpieces, which I suspect were just stage monitors so they could keep on their counts without losing time to sound difraction in that big space) the dynamic is merely additive.</p>
<p>Where you get scale effects is in networked systems subject to chaotic inputs. Those systems are based on a looser feedback model sensitive both to initial conditions and evolving fluxes. So the coordination dynamic is not merely additive because each new unit you plug in adds a variable. The coordination comes not from rigid task closure but the global mission definition within which the improvisations are occurring. There were no improvisations during that opening ceremony.</p>
<p>The famous macro-example of system coordination vs. network coordination is the blitzkrieg. The French were locked into a rigid command hierarchy and task closure based on a detailed but static definition of the situation. They were broken the moment the Germans, whose command model was more fluid, succeeded in changing the situation and exploiting its evolution.</p>
<p>At a micro-level I heard an interesting example of this from the Games. It turns out Michael Phelps is the kind of guy who thrives on routine. He has a procedure locked in and does the same thing every time. He&#8217;s the Maginot Line of swimming, and he&#8217;s formidable because the rules of the situation are locked in so that all of the variables can actually be pre-managed. In contrast, his closest competitor Ryan Lochte has no routine. He says he sees the water and visualizes going fast, then just does it. If the swimming was not happening in lanes he&#8217;d beat Phelps every time.</p>
<p>In Chinese cultural history this is like the difference between a Confucian (or better, a Legalist) and a Daoist, which brings me back to the original point that although the Chinese are indeed particularly good at large-scale systems coordination, because of their historical success in controlling input variables for long periods, they&#8217;ve also had some big shakeups; and like any culture that has coped with uncontrolled variables they also have resources of network coordination to call upon. Of course the same is true for the United States, which may default to network coordination but is perfectly capable of systems coordination when that&#8217;s what&#8217;s called for.</p>
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		<title>By: tyrone slothrop</title>
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		<dc:creator>tyrone slothrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting, beyond the structures of conjuctures, the Phelps v. Spitz &quot;saga&quot; has me thinking a great deal about Hunter S. Thompson&#039;s &quot;The Temptations of Jean-Claude Killy&quot;. And about what comes after the Olympics for these athletes, now caught by degrees in such structures. They become products, or perhaps, better said, they become brand names--corporate emblems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting, beyond the structures of conjuctures, the Phelps v. Spitz &#8220;saga&#8221; has me thinking a great deal about Hunter S. Thompson&#8217;s &#8220;The Temptations of Jean-Claude Killy&#8221;. And about what comes after the Olympics for these athletes, now caught by degrees in such structures. They become products, or perhaps, better said, they become brand names&#8211;corporate emblems.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t know they were wearing earpieces, but for a performance that makes people into pixels it is perhaps only appropriate that they were remotely triggered. 

And when we start talking about arrays, we should expect to find interesting stuff from people studying data aesthetics:

http://teemingvoid.blogspot.com/2008/08/array-aesthetics-olympic-edition.html

And following the link in that post to another on modular mass production and the terracotta army leads to other thoughts that I don&#039;t have the time to articulate...

For more human pixels see here:

http://maasmedia.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/unconventional-pixel-displays/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know they were wearing earpieces, but for a performance that makes people into pixels it is perhaps only appropriate that they were remotely triggered. </p>
<p>And when we start talking about arrays, we should expect to find interesting stuff from people studying data aesthetics:</p>
<p><a href="http://teemingvoid.blogspot.com/2008/08/array-aesthetics-olympic-edition.html" rel="nofollow">http://teemingvoid.blogspot.com/2008/08/array-aesthetics-olympic-edition.html</a></p>
<p>And following the link in that post to another on modular mass production and the terracotta army leads to other thoughts that I don&#8217;t have the time to articulate&#8230;</p>
<p>For more human pixels see here:</p>
<p><a href="http://maasmedia.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/unconventional-pixel-displays/" rel="nofollow">http://maasmedia.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/unconventional-pixel-displays/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as some one who has performed in ensembles ranging in size from 2 to 200, I&#039;d say that changes in scale _do_ affect the difficulty of coordinating performances. What struck me was the fact that the drummers, for instance, seemed to be wearing IFBs, which took some of the charge out of it.

Then on the other hand... how much do you have to know about the country to find surprising the idea that it&#039;s good at forms of governance that really excel in creating monumental performances/material culture through the mobilization of _tremendous tremendous amounts of people_?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as some one who has performed in ensembles ranging in size from 2 to 200, I&#8217;d say that changes in scale _do_ affect the difficulty of coordinating performances. What struck me was the fact that the drummers, for instance, seemed to be wearing IFBs, which took some of the charge out of it.</p>
<p>Then on the other hand&#8230; how much do you have to know about the country to find surprising the idea that it&#8217;s good at forms of governance that really excel in creating monumental performances/material culture through the mobilization of _tremendous tremendous amounts of people_?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthropologist Susan Brownell, spending her Fulbright year at Beijing Sport University, was quoted in today&#039;s NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/sports/olympics/14phelps.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin) with some observations about nationalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthropologist Susan Brownell, spending her Fulbright year at Beijing Sport University, was quoted in today&#8217;s NY Times (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/sports/olympics/14phelps.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/sports/olympics/14phelps.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin</a>) with some observations about nationalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Status bloodbath. Goffman via Geertz. 

Waste as index of meaning.

F-word, yes. I&#039;ve been interested in the subtext about collectivization in the lavish praise of the opening ceremonies from people like Bob Costas. Can&#039;t get over how the Chinese are able to get all those folks so perfectly coordinated. The admiration seems genuine and yet oddly orientalist. Have you never seen a marching band at a football half-time show, Bob? Or &quot;Up With People?&quot; Apparently doing the exact same thing with two thousand rather than two hundred changes the interpretive scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Status bloodbath. Goffman via Geertz. </p>
<p>Waste as index of meaning.</p>
<p>F-word, yes. I&#8217;ve been interested in the subtext about collectivization in the lavish praise of the opening ceremonies from people like Bob Costas. Can&#8217;t get over how the Chinese are able to get all those folks so perfectly coordinated. The admiration seems genuine and yet oddly orientalist. Have you never seen a marching band at a football half-time show, Bob? Or &#8220;Up With People?&#8221; Apparently doing the exact same thing with two thousand rather than two hundred changes the interpretive scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/08/12/well-i-guess-we-should-say-something-about-the-olympics/comment-page-1/#comment-471049</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, was the great divergence ended or simply erased? As far as I could tell the opening ceremonies skipped directly from Zheng He to post-Tiananmen bodysuits. Maybe I missed the last two or three centuries during the commercial break?

Does anyone have good links on how the opening ceremony presented Chinese history? There&#039;s got to be tons written on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, was the great divergence ended or simply erased? As far as I could tell the opening ceremonies skipped directly from Zheng He to post-Tiananmen bodysuits. Maybe I missed the last two or three centuries during the commercial break?</p>
<p>Does anyone have good links on how the opening ceremony presented Chinese history? There&#8217;s got to be tons written on it.</p>
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