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	<title>Comments on: Transhumanism vs. Anthropology</title>
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		<title>By: Van Keister</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/07/31/transhumanism-vs-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-612564</link>
		<dc:creator>Van Keister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transhumanism is not an issue that can be refuted by simple a predilection of taste or citing novels. It reduces itself not to simple rhetoric like this article and weak political and social arguments like this article uses.  Human evolution, is a question for anthropology, and is progressive as any living thing that does not evolve will go extinct, humans included. To sit back in comfort and deny the possibilities like this article does is to become a Neanderthal and deny the possibilities a newer, higher species coming into view.  Also Nietzsche is one of the voices promoting human ascension, the Overlords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transhumanism is not an issue that can be refuted by simple a predilection of taste or citing novels. It reduces itself not to simple rhetoric like this article and weak political and social arguments like this article uses.  Human evolution, is a question for anthropology, and is progressive as any living thing that does not evolve will go extinct, humans included. To sit back in comfort and deny the possibilities like this article does is to become a Neanderthal and deny the possibilities a newer, higher species coming into view.  Also Nietzsche is one of the voices promoting human ascension, the Overlords.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/07/31/transhumanism-vs-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-601709</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 08:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stumbled on your blog by accident, but wanted to thank you for bringing this up!!!  I am an anthropology major, and will be going to grad school in a year, my main motivation being the dearth of information on transhumanism and its anthropological implications.  Ray Kurzweil&#039;s perspective is so unwaveringly optimistic, it worries me that such little thought is being focused on the majority of people who can (and probably will) be harmed on this magic road to and far beyond the technological singularity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled on your blog by accident, but wanted to thank you for bringing this up!!!  I am an anthropology major, and will be going to grad school in a year, my main motivation being the dearth of information on transhumanism and its anthropological implications.  Ray Kurzweil&#8217;s perspective is so unwaveringly optimistic, it worries me that such little thought is being focused on the majority of people who can (and probably will) be harmed on this magic road to and far beyond the technological singularity.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil T.</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/07/31/transhumanism-vs-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-474035</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You write: &quot;Most transhumanist rhetoric seems to imply that there is no control—-it’s just the next stage of evolution—-but when push comes to shove, whatever “evolution” means to them, it isn’t simply your basic genetic-species evolution, but involves culture and technology as well.&quot;

There seems to be a tension between two aspects of transhumanist philosophy: (i) Technology is, in Kurzweil&#039;s words, &quot;inevitable&quot;; or, as Mike Treder recently said in an email to me, &quot;it&#039;s a virtual impossibility to prevent the development of molecular manufacturing (MM).&quot; Thus, transhumanists appear to espouse something like Langdon Winner&#039;s notion of &quot;autonomous technology&quot; with respect to the development of technology as a whole. On the other hand, though, (ii) transhumanists argue that the negative consequences of current and future technologies are tractable -- technologies are, according to their view, more-or-less neutral objects. In other words, while the technological enterprise is out-of-human-control, the individual technologies are in-human-control.

The website specified above is for a paper I recently wrote criticizing transhumanism partly from an anthropological perspective. If you&#039;re interested, read it. Oh, and lastly: Excellent post -- I think transhumanism needs more historical perspective, which the Global Spiral edition did not provide (although Don Ihde&#039;s paper was, in my opinion, brilliant as always).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write: &#8220;Most transhumanist rhetoric seems to imply that there is no control—-it’s just the next stage of evolution—-but when push comes to shove, whatever “evolution” means to them, it isn’t simply your basic genetic-species evolution, but involves culture and technology as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>There seems to be a tension between two aspects of transhumanist philosophy: (i) Technology is, in Kurzweil&#8217;s words, &#8220;inevitable&#8221;; or, as Mike Treder recently said in an email to me, &#8220;it&#8217;s a virtual impossibility to prevent the development of molecular manufacturing (MM).&#8221; Thus, transhumanists appear to espouse something like Langdon Winner&#8217;s notion of &#8220;autonomous technology&#8221; with respect to the development of technology as a whole. On the other hand, though, (ii) transhumanists argue that the negative consequences of current and future technologies are tractable &#8212; technologies are, according to their view, more-or-less neutral objects. In other words, while the technological enterprise is out-of-human-control, the individual technologies are in-human-control.</p>
<p>The website specified above is for a paper I recently wrote criticizing transhumanism partly from an anthropological perspective. If you&#8217;re interested, read it. Oh, and lastly: Excellent post &#8212; I think transhumanism needs more historical perspective, which the Global Spiral edition did not provide (although Don Ihde&#8217;s paper was, in my opinion, brilliant as always).</p>
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		<title>By: j.s.nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>j.s.nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, transhumanism is interesting/it makes me want to pull out my hair. There are important questions like, what what happens to culture as the possibilities for different configurations of body and brain rapidly multiply and become unrecognizable?  But for every interesting question there seems to be a transhumanist who can&#039;t provide any enlightening answers because their ideas about the future are shaped by the fact that they don&#039;t understand the second law of thermodynamics, don&#039;t understand the category of computational possibility, or just want to simulate even crazier sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, transhumanism is interesting/it makes me want to pull out my hair. There are important questions like, what what happens to culture as the possibilities for different configurations of body and brain rapidly multiply and become unrecognizable?  But for every interesting question there seems to be a transhumanist who can&#8217;t provide any enlightening answers because their ideas about the future are shaped by the fact that they don&#8217;t understand the second law of thermodynamics, don&#8217;t understand the category of computational possibility, or just want to simulate even crazier sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Baird Jackson</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2008/07/31/transhumanism-vs-anthropology/comment-page-1/#comment-460899</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Baird Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I found your post very helpful and very interesting. I value the McFate/Mother Jones conversation too, but it seems to have foreclosed discussion of this interesting thread.

Some of the relevant issues are rather far from my own expertise, but I can note that the corn example provides a fruitful point of articulation for several anthropological sub-fields and for connecting early 20th century anthropologies with early 21st century ones. Archaeologists and paleoethnobotanists have devoted massive amounts of work to corn domestication, of course, but there is also work on its relationship to social complexity, shifts in human health, and social change/collapse in parts of Native North America. (The archaeology of the &quot;Mississippian&quot; period in the Southerast, for instance.) Corn permeates every aspect of life among the Native peoples of the Southeastern U.S. with whom I work as an ethnographer and they themselves have had to recalibrate their heritage cultures with the ubiquity of corn products in the contemporary world (and the human diet). They, for instance, have ceremonies and food taboos associated with the &quot;new&quot; corn crop. How might one know if the corn syrup in the &quot;maple&quot; syrup on the breakfast table was made with last year&#039;s corn crop (safe) or this years (unsafe until one is ceremonially purified)? (One cannot eat the new corn crop (marked by the local first harvest) until one goes through a communal ceremony.) How does one think about the ubiquity of corn when one&#039;s people&#039;s sacred narratives account for its revelation to your people at the beginning of time? What does GMO contamination mean for ancestral heirloom varieties that are at the center of one&#039;s religious life? The corn conundrums are never ending and deserve further ethnography building on work already accomplished.

I find your argument for work across this broad field very compelling. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I found your post very helpful and very interesting. I value the McFate/Mother Jones conversation too, but it seems to have foreclosed discussion of this interesting thread.</p>
<p>Some of the relevant issues are rather far from my own expertise, but I can note that the corn example provides a fruitful point of articulation for several anthropological sub-fields and for connecting early 20th century anthropologies with early 21st century ones. Archaeologists and paleoethnobotanists have devoted massive amounts of work to corn domestication, of course, but there is also work on its relationship to social complexity, shifts in human health, and social change/collapse in parts of Native North America. (The archaeology of the &#8220;Mississippian&#8221; period in the Southerast, for instance.) Corn permeates every aspect of life among the Native peoples of the Southeastern U.S. with whom I work as an ethnographer and they themselves have had to recalibrate their heritage cultures with the ubiquity of corn products in the contemporary world (and the human diet). They, for instance, have ceremonies and food taboos associated with the &#8220;new&#8221; corn crop. How might one know if the corn syrup in the &#8220;maple&#8221; syrup on the breakfast table was made with last year&#8217;s corn crop (safe) or this years (unsafe until one is ceremonially purified)? (One cannot eat the new corn crop (marked by the local first harvest) until one goes through a communal ceremony.) How does one think about the ubiquity of corn when one&#8217;s people&#8217;s sacred narratives account for its revelation to your people at the beginning of time? What does GMO contamination mean for ancestral heirloom varieties that are at the center of one&#8217;s religious life? The corn conundrums are never ending and deserve further ethnography building on work already accomplished.</p>
<p>I find your argument for work across this broad field very compelling. Thanks.</p>
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