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	<title>Comments on: What counts as &#8216;first contact&#8217;? An example from Papua New Guinea</title>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know as soon as I posted this I realized that the sweet potato fetishists were going to pick apart that linguistic data (maybe that is why, subconciously, I attempted to stay below their radar by classifing this as &#039;South African&#039;?). I think that actually I am wrong about the cognate between Hawai&#039;i and Porgera, although the point still stands (broadly). At some point Chris Ballard explained to me the various strands of sweet potato words in my area, but I can&#039;t remember now exactly how it works now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know as soon as I posted this I realized that the sweet potato fetishists were going to pick apart that linguistic data (maybe that is why, subconciously, I attempted to stay below their radar by classifing this as &#8216;South African&#8217;?). I think that actually I am wrong about the cognate between Hawai&#8217;i and Porgera, although the point still stands (broadly). At some point Chris Ballard explained to me the various strands of sweet potato words in my area, but I can&#8217;t remember now exactly how it works now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lukc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lukc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great post and I have to echo BJG. Contact has always been documented as &#039;first contact that counts from our POV&#039;. The whole Age of Exploration is often presented as a great unification of humanity ... the mighty explorers of Europe went out and brought together once more the scattered tribes of man.

I&#039;m fascinated by the ideological ramifications of this exploration project and how it has become such a deep and important part of the western psyche. It&#039;s common sense that people are isolated, and then we bring them into civilization through &#039;contact&#039;.

I wonder, what are accounts of exploration and contact in other cultures like? What are Japanese, Chinese or Indian accounts like? How did Arab traders and sailors describe their first contacts with &#039;isolated tribes&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great post and I have to echo BJG. Contact has always been documented as &#8216;first contact that counts from our POV&#8217;. The whole Age of Exploration is often presented as a great unification of humanity &#8230; the mighty explorers of Europe went out and brought together once more the scattered tribes of man.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fascinated by the ideological ramifications of this exploration project and how it has become such a deep and important part of the western psyche. It&#8217;s common sense that people are isolated, and then we bring them into civilization through &#8216;contact&#8217;.</p>
<p>I wonder, what are accounts of exploration and contact in other cultures like? What are Japanese, Chinese or Indian accounts like? How did Arab traders and sailors describe their first contacts with &#8216;isolated tribes&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: BJG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going to school in Polynesia, I still have a distinct memory of text-book tables comparing similar words across Pacific languages – these things have meaning in narratives of national origin.

Anyway, this post/discussion has been very productive in challenging/refiguring ‘first contact’ by drawing out many other linkages between people.  But my woah there Batman moment involves looking at the historical Anglo idea of ‘first contact’.  I’m not sure we can say “but actually x was trading with z” without asking why we need to point that out in the first place.  So I’m going to say a little bit, forget what I’m on about, put a bit of guff in, etc.  

‘Contact’ and ‘discovery’ were intricately bound up in the imperial project.  Claiming these often meant exerting a right to exploitation, but it also meant increasing esteem in self and nation and forming a lasting conception of ‘us’ and ‘them’.  For example, narratives along the lines of “they all waved their spears … then they venerated us as gods” contributed quite meaningfully.  Other factors like a desire for monolithic scientific knowledge should be added in here as well.  Many a tome has been devoted to talking to this stuff so I’m not going to bore you with a précis, but you get the picture.  (I should add that I’m not bringing this up as a bit of po-co hand-wringing.  I find it anthropologically fascinating and my research has been on colonialists).  

Anyway, these ideas still have cultural currency … hence some folk diligently put quotation marks round works like ‘discovery’ in an effort at reconstruction, and other folk reckon newspaper photos of ‘uncontacted Amazonian tribes’ tremendously exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going to school in Polynesia, I still have a distinct memory of text-book tables comparing similar words across Pacific languages – these things have meaning in narratives of national origin.</p>
<p>Anyway, this post/discussion has been very productive in challenging/refiguring ‘first contact’ by drawing out many other linkages between people.  But my woah there Batman moment involves looking at the historical Anglo idea of ‘first contact’.  I’m not sure we can say “but actually x was trading with z” without asking why we need to point that out in the first place.  So I’m going to say a little bit, forget what I’m on about, put a bit of guff in, etc.  </p>
<p>‘Contact’ and ‘discovery’ were intricately bound up in the imperial project.  Claiming these often meant exerting a right to exploitation, but it also meant increasing esteem in self and nation and forming a lasting conception of ‘us’ and ‘them’.  For example, narratives along the lines of “they all waved their spears … then they venerated us as gods” contributed quite meaningfully.  Other factors like a desire for monolithic scientific knowledge should be added in here as well.  Many a tome has been devoted to talking to this stuff so I’m not going to bore you with a précis, but you get the picture.  (I should add that I’m not bringing this up as a bit of po-co hand-wringing.  I find it anthropologically fascinating and my research has been on colonialists).  </p>
<p>Anyway, these ideas still have cultural currency … hence some folk diligently put quotation marks round works like ‘discovery’ in an effort at reconstruction, and other folk reckon newspaper photos of ‘uncontacted Amazonian tribes’ tremendously exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate, yes a strong indication that sweet potato was not transferred directly from Polynesia to PNG in prehistory is that none of island Melanesia had it until the mid 1800s-1900s when it was introduced by traders, missionaries etc as you say. So, in all we have at least 3 routes into different parts of the Pacific. And, to bring this back on topic, this epitomises Rex&#039;s point about multiple connections, networks, influences...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate, yes a strong indication that sweet potato was not transferred directly from Polynesia to PNG in prehistory is that none of island Melanesia had it until the mid 1800s-1900s when it was introduced by traders, missionaries etc as you say. So, in all we have at least 3 routes into different parts of the Pacific. And, to bring this back on topic, this epitomises Rex&#8217;s point about multiple connections, networks, influences&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kate G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are interesting cognates between some SE Asian languages and Austronesian (Pacific) languages, such as susu for breast, milk and i&#039;a or ika for fish.  

And, Tim, kumala was also used by the Kwaio of Malaita (Solomon Islands) for sweet potato, which I put to the fact that there, at least, sweet potato has been introduced from New Zealand by missionaries, although sweet potatoes were not a dominant crop on Malaita until after WWII.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are interesting cognates between some SE Asian languages and Austronesian (Pacific) languages, such as susu for breast, milk and i&#8217;a or ika for fish.  </p>
<p>And, Tim, kumala was also used by the Kwaio of Malaita (Solomon Islands) for sweet potato, which I put to the fact that there, at least, sweet potato has been introduced from New Zealand by missionaries, although sweet potatoes were not a dominant crop on Malaita until after WWII.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James: Good question. The Hawaiian term is a clear reflex of the proto-Polynesian *kumala, which itself is thought to derive from Equadorian and Peruvian words &#039;comal&#039; or &#039;cumal&#039; for the same root crop. Is ulia demonstrably related (genetically) to these terms? Or is it a coincidence? What did the early Spanish or Portugese call sweet potato? What word do other Trans-New Guinea speakers use? I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James: Good question. The Hawaiian term is a clear reflex of the proto-Polynesian *kumala, which itself is thought to derive from Equadorian and Peruvian words &#8216;comal&#8217; or &#8216;cumal&#8217; for the same root crop. Is ulia demonstrably related (genetically) to these terms? Or is it a coincidence? What did the early Spanish or Portugese call sweet potato? What word do other Trans-New Guinea speakers use? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tim: But how does this transfer accord with the linguistic evidence that Rex gave of ulia, among what are probably numerous other examples? It would be peculiar (though not impossible) for the word to be transferred along a different path than the object it is associated with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim: But how does this transfer accord with the linguistic evidence that Rex gave of ulia, among what are probably numerous other examples? It would be peculiar (though not impossible) for the word to be transferred along a different path than the object it is associated with.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually whilst the sweet potato was certainly transferred to East Polynesia very much before European arrival, it did not make it very far west in prehistory. The presence of sweet potato in the PNG highlands dates back to about 1700AD - it was transferred from South America by the Portugese via the Atlantic, and the Spanish via the Pacific, to island Southeast Asia. From there it spread to the Sepik and upwards to the Highlands via indigenous exchange routes.

Of course none of this should be seen as damaging to Rex&#039;s point about long term down-the-line contact. The island southeast asian connection was very strong - e.g. bronze artefact transferrals, and the bird of paradise feather trade. Pam Swadling&#039;s &quot;Plumes from Paradise&quot; is the classic source book for these connections...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually whilst the sweet potato was certainly transferred to East Polynesia very much before European arrival, it did not make it very far west in prehistory. The presence of sweet potato in the PNG highlands dates back to about 1700AD &#8211; it was transferred from South America by the Portugese via the Atlantic, and the Spanish via the Pacific, to island Southeast Asia. From there it spread to the Sepik and upwards to the Highlands via indigenous exchange routes.</p>
<p>Of course none of this should be seen as damaging to Rex&#8217;s point about long term down-the-line contact. The island southeast asian connection was very strong &#8211; e.g. bronze artefact transferrals, and the bird of paradise feather trade. Pam Swadling&#8217;s &#8220;Plumes from Paradise&#8221; is the classic source book for these connections&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex,

 I was fascinated by the linguistic cognates between &#039;sweet poato&#039; in Hawai&#039;i and Ipili. Since chickens are of southeast Asian origin, is there a correlate with regard to domestic fowl? I don&#039;t know how far domestic fowl are represented in the Highlands, though they are In the Admiralties. Archaeologically, there has always been a thin line connecting western New Guinea (and even Arnhem Land through Bugis sailors) with the Bunda islands. Echoing the McNeills, New Guinea has never been totally cut off from island Southeast Asia. There seems to have sporadically been some contact. So what is &#039;first contact&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex,</p>
<p> I was fascinated by the linguistic cognates between &#8217;sweet poato&#8217; in Hawai&#8217;i and Ipili. Since chickens are of southeast Asian origin, is there a correlate with regard to domestic fowl? I don&#8217;t know how far domestic fowl are represented in the Highlands, though they are In the Admiralties. Archaeologically, there has always been a thin line connecting western New Guinea (and even Arnhem Land through Bugis sailors) with the Bunda islands. Echoing the McNeills, New Guinea has never been totally cut off from island Southeast Asia. There seems to have sporadically been some contact. So what is &#8216;first contact&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Derick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, &amp; thanks for the ref. to the McNeills.  But why was this posted under Southern Africa? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, &amp; thanks for the ref. to the McNeills.  But why was this posted under Southern Africa? :)</p>
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