Comments on: Three New Tools http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/ Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:28:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Julian B http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-512562 Julian B Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:23:21 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-512562 Thanks, Kerim. Thanks, Kerim.

]]> By: Kerim http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-512552 Kerim Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:59:49 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-512552 Julian, Sorry to take so long to reply - I'm just now catching up on the 100 comments which have accumulated on SM while I've been busy with other things... The short answer is no. There is no pre-set AA style. However, there are probably other styles which are very close and you can easily edit/modify the styles. What I would like to see in Sente is an easier way to share user-generated styles. Julian,

Sorry to take so long to reply – I’m just now catching up on the 100 comments which have accumulated on SM while I’ve been busy with other things…

The short answer is no. There is no pre-set AA style. However, there are probably other styles which are very close and you can easily edit/modify the styles. What I would like to see in Sente is an easier way to share user-generated styles.

]]> By: Julian B http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-504105 Julian B Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:54:21 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-504105 Hi Kerim: You and I actually went to college together - and now we are both anthropologists. I am thinking of converting to Mac for many reasons, but prominent among them is Sente. However, before I do I wanted to ask you if Sente supports the American Anthropologist bibliography style. I haven't been able to tell from their website. Cheers, Julian Hi Kerim:

You and I actually went to college together – and now we are both anthropologists. I am thinking of converting to Mac for many reasons, but prominent among them is Sente. However, before I do I wanted to ask you if Sente supports the American Anthropologist bibliography style. I haven’t been able to tell from their website.

Cheers,
Julian

]]> By: Kerim http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-418792 Kerim Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:38:05 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-418792 There is a Zotero update for Firefox 3, but the latest beta of Sente adds the Zotero feature I love most - the ability to detect reverences from some academic web pages. Right now they only support a few sites (like Google Scholar), but they will be adding many more before the new version is released. There is a Zotero update for Firefox 3, but the latest beta of Sente adds the Zotero feature I love most – the ability to detect reverences from some academic web pages. Right now they only support a few sites (like Google Scholar), but they will be adding many more before the new version is released.

]]> By: Kate G http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-418320 Kate G Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:18:16 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-418320 Evernote is open to new users now. I love it. It solves a major problem for me as I become bilocal -- living one place M-F and back 'home' to my central work computer for the weekends. Thanks for this! BTW, I don't think Zotero works with the new FireFox 3 -- or perhaps they've put out an upgrade by now. Evernote is open to new users now. I love it. It solves a major problem for me as I become bilocal — living one place M-F and back ‘home’ to my central work computer for the weekends.
Thanks for this!
BTW, I don’t think Zotero works with the new FireFox 3 — or perhaps they’ve put out an upgrade by now.

]]> By: Kerim http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-297946 Kerim Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:47:23 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-297946 I spent about an hour with BibDesk. While it seems to have some nice features, and I'm all for open source, I think that most people would be better off to stick with Bookends or Sente - both of which provide a much more powerful user interface. The difference is like working with a Linux computer or working with Mac OS X. After numerous efforts I couldn't get BibDesk to import more than 1/3 of my data correctly, whereas Sente imported it correctly on the first try - and even attached all the PDF files (copying, renaming them and organizing them in its database at the same time!). Simple things like searching the library of congress for a book title didn't work properly in BibDesk, even after reading the manual and using the proper search terms. I'm sure it works if you are willing to spend the time to figure out its quirks - but I can't recommend it for people who just want to get work done. I spent about an hour with BibDesk. While it seems to have some nice features, and I’m all for open source, I think that most people would be better off to stick with Bookends or Sente – both of which provide a much more powerful user interface. The difference is like working with a Linux computer or working with Mac OS X. After numerous efforts I couldn’t get BibDesk to import more than 1/3 of my data correctly, whereas Sente imported it correctly on the first try – and even attached all the PDF files (copying, renaming them and organizing them in its database at the same time!). Simple things like searching the library of congress for a book title didn’t work properly in BibDesk, even after reading the manual and using the proper search terms. I’m sure it works if you are willing to spend the time to figure out its quirks – but I can’t recommend it for people who just want to get work done.

]]> By: Kerim http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-297686 Kerim Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:39:53 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-297686 Jørgen, I actually tested Papers out for this post, thinking I would write about that as my fourth app. But it seemed somewhat buggy and difficult to use (e.g. It sees the Jstor link in my file and will open it, but to match the reference to the Jstor data I need to do a JSTOR search, I can't use the embedded link). I can certainly see the promise, and I know some people are very happy with it - but it didn't work for me. Derick, Sente will display notes from Skim (and the built-in Preview which now offers annotation tools) as well. Glad to know it that BibTex works with more than Tex - I'll download it and give it a try. Jørgen,

I actually tested Papers out for this post, thinking I would write about that as my fourth app. But it seemed somewhat buggy and difficult to use (e.g. It sees the Jstor link in my file and will open it, but to match the reference to the Jstor data I need to do a JSTOR search, I can’t use the embedded link). I can certainly see the promise, and I know some people are very happy with it – but it didn’t work for me.

Derick,

Sente will display notes from Skim (and the built-in Preview which now offers annotation tools) as well. Glad to know it that BibTex works with more than Tex – I’ll download it and give it a try.

]]> By: Derick http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-297007 Derick Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:06:13 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-297007 Re: integration, BibDesk has user-developed scripts for integration with Pages, Word & rtf formats (via TextEdit) -- I've used it for 1.5+ years with Nisus Writer Pro & have never used Tex. Also if you annotate your PDFs with Skim (free & developed by the same team as BibDesk), you can display and search Skim notes from within BibDesk. My $.02 :) Re: integration, BibDesk has user-developed scripts for integration with Pages, Word & rtf formats (via TextEdit) — I’ve used it for 1.5+ years with Nisus Writer Pro & have never used Tex. Also if you annotate your PDFs with Skim (free & developed by the same team as BibDesk), you can display and search Skim notes from within BibDesk. My $.02 :)

]]> By: Jørgen Tietze http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-296689 Jørgen Tietze Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:14:38 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-296689 I've been using Papers for some time, it looks really promising - a lot of features are planned and asked for; it seems like there is an active online community supporting the application. Web: http://mekentosj.com/papers/ Forum: http://mekentosj.com/papers/forum15/ I’ve been using Papers for some time, it looks really promising – a lot of features are planned and asked for; it seems like there is an active online community supporting the application.

Web: http://mekentosj.com/papers/
Forum: http://mekentosj.com/papers/forum15/

]]> By: Kerim http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-296441 Kerim Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:59:34 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-296441 While not free, Sente offers a significant academic discount to both faculty and students. It also offers tight integration with Mellel which is (IMHO) the best word processor on any computer. For free I would recommend Zotero over BibDesk simply because it offers NeoOffice integration, and NeoOffice will be more familiar to most users than Tex (NeoOffice is virtually identical to Word). While not free, Sente offers a significant academic discount to both faculty and students. It also offers tight integration with Mellel which is (IMHO) the best word processor on any computer. For free I would recommend Zotero over BibDesk simply because it offers NeoOffice integration, and NeoOffice will be more familiar to most users than Tex (NeoOffice is virtually identical to Word).

]]> By: Derick http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-296369 Derick Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:06:22 +0000 http://savageminds.org/2008/04/16/three-new-tools/#comment-296369 Users who don't want to shell out for Sente should know there is a free, open-source, actively-developed (by very responsive, hard-working volunteer developers) alternative in BibDesk, with more users than Sente, Endnote and Bookends combined on osx.iusethis.com (a longer comparison here: http://macresearch.org/reference_management_applications ), and a ready-made template for aaa citation format linked from http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Export_Templates . Getting anthrosource refs. in requires a cut-and-paste, but that's b/c anthrosource puts up buggy BibTex, not b/c of BibDesk. Users who don’t want to shell out for Sente should know there is a free, open-source, actively-developed (by very responsive, hard-working volunteer developers) alternative in BibDesk, with more users than Sente, Endnote and Bookends combined on osx.iusethis.com (a longer comparison here: http://macresearch.org/reference_management_applications ), and a ready-made template for aaa citation format linked from http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Export_Templates . Getting anthrosource refs. in requires a cut-and-paste, but that’s b/c anthrosource puts up buggy BibTex, not b/c of BibDesk.

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