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		<title>By: Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Backup advisors</title>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] p research + digital collaboration != FLOSS &#187; 		 		 		 			 				Tue 27 Sep 2005 Backup advisors Posted by Kerim under  [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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<p> 				Tue 27 Sep 2005<br />
 Backup advisors<br />
 Posted by Kerim under  [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->
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		<title>By: AnthroDiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnthroDiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 16:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys might like this:

http://www.susanmazur.com/7144/6955.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys might like this:</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerim, I assume you mean this is for someone who is doing it full time? Wow, I will have to do mine part-time if I want to keep my job. Perhaps I will get my Ph.D before I die, then, for what it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerim, I assume you mean this is for someone who is doing it full time? Wow, I will have to do mine part-time if I want to keep my job. Perhaps I will get my Ph.D before I die, then, for what it&#8217;s worth.
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		<title>By: Kerim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forget where I read/heard that figure, but I think of it this way: The quickest way through a program (unless you already are a native speaker in the language you will be doing research) is as follows:

3 years for course work
1 year to work on your proposal and write grants (or wait for them to come through)
1 year language study
1 year fieldwork
1 year writeup

That&#039;s already 7 years. Now, many people I know are working part time, spend more time writing up, spend more time in the field, and/or spend more time waiting for research funds before leaving (often teaching part time while they are waiting). Not to mention people who basically drop out for a while, or who are asked to write a masters thesis before being allowed to continue, who have children while in graduate school, etc. 

It took my mom 20 years! But then she had a family somewhere in there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forget where I read/heard that figure, but I think of it this way: The quickest way through a program (unless you already are a native speaker in the language you will be doing research) is as follows:</p>
<p>3 years for course work<br />
1 year to work on your proposal and write grants (or wait for them to come through)<br />
1 year language study<br />
1 year fieldwork<br />
1 year writeup</p>
<p>That&#8217;s already 7 years. Now, many people I know are working part time, spend more time writing up, spend more time in the field, and/or spend more time waiting for research funds before leaving (often teaching part time while they are waiting). Not to mention people who basically drop out for a while, or who are asked to write a masters thesis before being allowed to continue, who have children while in graduate school, etc. </p>
<p>It took my mom 20 years! But then she had a family somewhere in there&#8230;
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		<title>By: oneman</title>
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		<dc:creator>oneman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 02:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NINE YEARS?!?!?!?! Are you freakin&#039; kidding me?! I&#039;m going on 8 (measuring from start of MA) and I thought I was a freak -- and I&#039;m getting all sorts of pressure from my department to get my ass in gear.  And you&#039;re telling me the *average* is even longer than I&#039;ve been at it? I don&#039;t know whether to feel relieved or pissed off that nobody told me this 8 years ago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NINE YEARS?!?!?!?! Are you freakin&#8217; kidding me?! I&#8217;m going on 8 (measuring from start of MA) and I thought I was a freak &#8212; and I&#8217;m getting all sorts of pressure from my department to get my ass in gear.  And you&#8217;re telling me the *average* is even longer than I&#8217;ve been at it? I don&#8217;t know whether to feel relieved or pissed off that nobody told me this 8 years ago&#8230;
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		<title>By: Timothy Burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The time to completion in anthropology is a separate issue in its own regard, but it urgently needs thinking about by departments of anthropology (unlikely to happen). Failing that, in specific, anyone contemplating a doctorate in anthropology needs first to understand this aspect of graduate study as distinct from the norm, and needs special intense reinforcement on your last point. An anthropology dissertation needs to be written with special intensity and speed and with far less hang-ups about completion: the normal pace of writing that tangles up doctoral students in some cognate disciplines elongates an already interminable course of study for anthropologists past the breaking point in some cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time to completion in anthropology is a separate issue in its own regard, but it urgently needs thinking about by departments of anthropology (unlikely to happen). Failing that, in specific, anyone contemplating a doctorate in anthropology needs first to understand this aspect of graduate study as distinct from the norm, and needs special intense reinforcement on your last point. An anthropology dissertation needs to be written with special intensity and speed and with far less hang-ups about completion: the normal pace of writing that tangles up doctoral students in some cognate disciplines elongates an already interminable course of study for anthropologists past the breaking point in some cases.
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