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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] &#160; Log In    CLIOPATRIA: A Group BlogRalph E. LukerThings Noted Here and ThereBurke Among the Savages: Tim Burke continues his discussion with the anthropologists at Savage Minds about Jared Diamond&#039;s Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies. See: &quot;About Yali,&quot; &quot;Diamond, Cultural Anthropology, and Postcolonial Theory,&quot; and &quot;A Response to Timothy Burke.&quot; Fact Checking Her E-Mail: When Oscar Chamberlain cited Gerda Lerner&#039;s e-mail about post-Katrina recovery, it was reproduced on HNN&#039;s mainpage. But Tom Bruscino at Big Tent wonders how Lerner could have gotten both the New Deal and the G.I. Bill so wrong -- overstating the achievements of the former and understating the achievements of the latter. Iraq and Katrina: Manan Ahmed says that we will see more attempts to consider Iraq and Katrina as two causes of stress for contemporary American society. Two early ventures from very different perspectives: Christopher Hitchens, &quot;Iraq and Katrina,&quot; Slate, 6 September; and Tom Englehardt, &quot;Iraq in America: At the Front of Nowhere at All,&quot; TomDispatch.com, 4 September. I Report/You Decide: Werther, &quot;Bard of the Booboisie,&quot; CounterPunch, 7 September, begins frankly enough: &quot;Let us stipulate straightaway: Victor Davis Hanson is the worst historian since Parson Weems.&quot; Thanks to Political Theory Daily Review for the tip. [ ... ]Photograph Your Dead: In 19th century America, it was common to photograph bodies of the deceased in their caskets, as a means of remembering them. Now, when the Pentagon has tried to ban photographs of caskets returning from the war in Iraq, so FEMA is banning photographs of the recovery of bodies in the Gulf coast after Katrina. In both cases, the claim is made for respecting the privacy of the deceased and their families. I suspect that it has more to do with hiding ourselves from death. &quot;Why should we hear about body bags and deaths,&quot; Barbara Bush said on ABC&#039;s &quot;Good Morning America&quot; on March 18, 2003. &quot;Oh, I mean, it&#039;s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?&quot; Thanks to Ashley in comments at Outside Report for the tip. Finally: Congratulations to Jason Kuznicki, who defended his dissertation successfully at Johns Hopkins. You can call him Dr. Kuznicki now.Posted on Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 12:53 AM &#124; Comments (10) &#124; Return [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] &nbsp; Log In    CLIOPATRIA: A Group BlogRalph E. LukerThings Noted Here and ThereBurke Among the Savages: Tim Burke continues his discussion with the anthropologists at Savage Minds about Jared Diamond&#8217;s Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies. See: &#8220;About Yali,&#8221; &#8220;Diamond, Cultural Anthropology, and Postcolonial Theory,&#8221; and &#8220;A Response to Timothy Burke.&#8221; Fact Checking Her E-Mail: When Oscar Chamberlain cited Gerda Lerner&#8217;s e-mail about post-Katrina recovery, it was reproduced on HNN&#8217;s mainpage. But Tom Bruscino at Big Tent wonders how Lerner could have gotten both the New Deal and the G.I. Bill so wrong &#8212; overstating the achievements of the former and understating the achievements of the latter. Iraq and Katrina: Manan Ahmed says that we will see more attempts to consider Iraq and Katrina as two causes of stress for contemporary American society. Two early ventures from very different perspectives: Christopher Hitchens, &#8220;Iraq and Katrina,&#8221; Slate, 6 September; and Tom Englehardt, &#8220;Iraq in America: At the Front of Nowhere at All,&#8221; TomDispatch.com, 4 September. I Report/You Decide: Werther, &#8220;Bard of the Booboisie,&#8221; CounterPunch, 7 September, begins frankly enough: &#8220;Let us stipulate straightaway: Victor Davis Hanson is the worst historian since Parson Weems.&#8221; Thanks to Political Theory Daily Review for the tip. [ ... ]Photograph Your Dead: In 19th century America, it was common to photograph bodies of the deceased in their caskets, as a means of remembering them. Now, when the Pentagon has tried to ban photographs of caskets returning from the war in Iraq, so FEMA is banning photographs of the recovery of bodies in the Gulf coast after Katrina. In both cases, the claim is made for respecting the privacy of the deceased and their families. I suspect that it has more to do with hiding ourselves from death. &#8220;Why should we hear about body bags and deaths,&#8221; Barbara Bush said on ABC&#8217;s &#8220;Good Morning America&#8221; on March 18, 2003. &#8220;Oh, I mean, it&#8217;s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?&#8221; Thanks to Ashley in comments at Outside Report for the tip. Finally: Congratulations to Jason Kuznicki, who defended his dissertation successfully at Johns Hopkins. You can call him Dr. Kuznicki now.Posted on Thursday, September 8, 2005 at 12:53 AM | Comments (10) | Return [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/09/03/about-yali/comment-page-1/#comment-1438</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a bad thing if Diamond misunderstood Yali&#039;s question?  I mean, we&#039;re not talking about a situation like Diamond misunderstanding Yali&#039;s instructions about which mushrooms are safe to eat and which are poisonous.    

Yali may have gotten a different answer than he was expecting, but it was an interesting and provocative answer and personally I always find it interesting to discover a new way of looking on the world that I hadn&#039;t thought of before - I don&#039;t see any reason to assume that Yali would have suffered by encountering a new one himself.  Of course he might feel a bit frustrated, but that&#039;s not the end of the world.  He can always ask his question again and try to explain himself more clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a bad thing if Diamond misunderstood Yali&#8217;s question?  I mean, we&#8217;re not talking about a situation like Diamond misunderstanding Yali&#8217;s instructions about which mushrooms are safe to eat and which are poisonous.    </p>
<p>Yali may have gotten a different answer than he was expecting, but it was an interesting and provocative answer and personally I always find it interesting to discover a new way of looking on the world that I hadn&#8217;t thought of before &#8211; I don&#8217;t see any reason to assume that Yali would have suffered by encountering a new one himself.  Of course he might feel a bit frustrated, but that&#8217;s not the end of the world.  He can always ask his question again and try to explain himself more clearly.
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		<title>By: Crooked Timber  &#187;   &#187; Bourdieu among the Anthropologists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crooked Timber  &#187;   &#187; Bourdieu among the Anthropologists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 01:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] urdieu among the Anthropologists 			Posted by Henry 	 			 					The Jared Diamond wars have begun to flare up again. Of particular interest is this recent exchange between Timothy Bu [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fred and Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred and Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 18:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  Yali is dead.  He died, if we recall, just before PNG achieved indepepndence, in 1975. His son, James Yali, is now Governor of the Madang Province, where Yali was himself most active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  Yali is dead.  He died, if we recall, just before PNG achieved indepepndence, in 1975. His son, James Yali, is now Governor of the Madang Province, where Yali was himself most active.
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		<title>By: Kerim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 18:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this. Just curious, since you use the past tense - is Yali still alive and politically active?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. Just curious, since you use the past tense &#8211; is Yali still alive and politically active?
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		<title>By: Brad DeLong's Semi-Daily Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad DeLong's Semi-Daily Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;to gain control over important (because scarce) use-values.  Yet Fred and Deborah want very badly to draw a distinction between a &quot;western&quot; orientation, toward technology, wealth, and use-values, and a very different Papua-New Guinean orientation: About Yali : Yali... remained largely PNGuinean... concerned less about the material attributes of things themselves than about the social uses to which things were put.... [For Yali] things have value because they can be used in transactions to establish&lt;!--%kramer-post--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->to gain control over important (because scarce) use-values.  Yet Fred and Deborah want very badly to draw a distinction between a &#8220;western&#8221; orientation, toward technology, wealth, and use-values, and a very different Papua-New Guinean orientation: About Yali : Yali&#8230; remained largely PNGuinean&#8230; concerned less about the material attributes of things themselves than about the social uses to which things were put&#8230;. [For Yali] things have value because they can be used in transactions to establish<!--%kramer-post-->
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		<title>By: Its All Just A Ride</title>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Selections From The Blogroll  Will at Nomadic Thoughts shares some anthropological thoughts on hurricane Katrina...  Kerim at Keywords points out the consequences of environmental destruction and hurricane Katrina. Guest bloggers Frederick Errington and Deborah Gewertz take a look at who Yali of &quot;Yali&#039;s Question&quot; was. &lt;!--%kramer-post--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Easily Distracted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easily Distracted</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt; Frederick Errington and Deborah Gewertz have made a series of interesting posts about Jared Diamond, “Yali’s Question” and Papua New Guinea at Savage Minds &lt;!--%kramer-post--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: John Hawks Anthropology Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hawks Anthropology Weblog</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt; About Yali , On cargo and cults - and Yali&#039;s question, Diamond&#039;s argument about the haves and have-nots, Malaria in Africa and Asia, and more.    Meanwhile, Mikey Brass at the Palanthsci Yahoo group put me onto&lt;!--%kramer-post--&gt;</description>
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