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		<title>By: Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; In the Flesh in the Museum</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-18495</link>
		<dc:creator>Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; In the Flesh in the Museum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Representations of Indians in American Natural History Museums Preface: The recent posts on Ota Benga and the popular museum reminded me of an essay I had wanted to post last year when Kerim posted about the Bavarian village in display in Africa. I had prepared it for posting last year, but for some reason never did. The essay deals with the display of living people, and particularly native North and South Americans, in ethnographic/educational contexts&#8212;not the sideshow, but the museum and the culture fair. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Representations of Indians in American Natural History Museums Preface: The recent posts on Ota Benga and the popular museum reminded me of an essay I had wanted to post last year when Kerim posted about the Bavarian village in display in Africa. I had prepared it for posting last year, but for some reason never did. The essay deals with the display of living people, and particularly native North and South Americans, in ethnographic/educational contexts&#8212;not the sideshow, but the museum and the culture fair. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: antropologi.info - Sosialantropologi i Norge / Norden -  nyhetsklipp blogg 
 - I Tyskland: Dyrehage stiller ut afrikanere</title>
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 - I Tyskland: Dyrehage stiller ut afrikanere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] rte motstanderne av utstillingen enda mer. 	Nyheten spredte seg rask via epost og har vakt internasjonal oppsikt. Etter at historieprofessor Norbert Finzsch h [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Commodifying Girls, Harajuku Style</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Savage Minds: Notes and Queries in Anthropology — A Group Blog &#187; Commodifying Girls, Harajuku Style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gist in a major print publication.  And this will be sort of a riff on Rex&#8217;s earlier mention of the clever parody on the African village planned at a Ge [...]</description>
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		<title>By: orange.</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>orange.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germans don`t feel offended by being displaced in a zoo or in any other form of stereotyping exhibition or marketing event.  
Germans feel offended by being displaced as Nazis. This is &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; complexe. An exhibition reducing us to Third Reich Citizens probably would raise more german protest than being bavariazed, right? 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.places.co.za/html/3002.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; I finally found something ressembling the images / the associations that I had in mind  &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; the Áfrican Village in Augsburg had opened and local media put photographs from the inside online. 
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Lesedi is a multicultural village set amongst the pristine bushveld and rocky hills less than an hour’s drive north of Johannesburg. 
Situated at Lesedi are four traditional homesteads – The Zulus with their fighting sticks and cozy beehive huts, The Xhosa with their perfectly thatched rondawels and distinctive white blankets, the rhythmic drums and whistles of The Pedi tribe and the conical straw hats and thick, colored blankets of The Basotho.
Families peacefully living their traditional lives inhabit each homestead at Lesedi. Additional huts for each village have been constructed in each homestead offering the unique opportunity of staying with a traditional rural African family...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I definitely had expected huts. And huts had also Norbert Finzsch seen. And this is the significance. 
It is the reception that has become the ´african village case`. 
I was surprised not finding any article on it in &lt;i&gt;Die Zeit&lt;/i&gt; this week (which claims to be the leading popular german scademic / intellectual / social science related newsmagazine, as far as I know). 
So the public reflection seems to have ended before really having begun.  
The reduction on national context is misleading, as Glick Schiller gave into discussion on anthropologi.info. 
The other african village cases serve this argument, moreover I found an article in Die Zeit from 2001 on a bbc gameshow called African Village,  where a british couple is put to live for a certain period in.. who wants to guess?  
Now how come these images are still alive. How are they transformed and intermediated through history. What &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; are the &lt;i&gt;present&lt;/i&gt; representations of ethnocentrism? 
Being racist or not--it`s not that easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germans don`t feel offended by being displaced in a zoo or in any other form of stereotyping exhibition or marketing event.<br />
Germans feel offended by being displaced as Nazis. This is <i>our</i> complexe. An exhibition reducing us to Third Reich Citizens probably would raise more german protest than being bavariazed, right?<br />
<a href="http://www.places.co.za/html/3002.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a> I finally found something ressembling the images / the associations that I had in mind  <i>before</i> the Áfrican Village in Augsburg had opened and local media put photographs from the inside online.<br />
<i>&#8220;Lesedi is a multicultural village set amongst the pristine bushveld and rocky hills less than an hour’s drive north of Johannesburg.<br />
Situated at Lesedi are four traditional homesteads – The Zulus with their fighting sticks and cozy beehive huts, The Xhosa with their perfectly thatched rondawels and distinctive white blankets, the rhythmic drums and whistles of The Pedi tribe and the conical straw hats and thick, colored blankets of The Basotho.<br />
Families peacefully living their traditional lives inhabit each homestead at Lesedi. Additional huts for each village have been constructed in each homestead offering the unique opportunity of staying with a traditional rural African family&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I definitely had expected huts. And huts had also Norbert Finzsch seen. And this is the significance.<br />
It is the reception that has become the ´african village case`.<br />
I was surprised not finding any article on it in <i>Die Zeit</i> this week (which claims to be the leading popular german scademic / intellectual / social science related newsmagazine, as far as I know).<br />
So the public reflection seems to have ended before really having begun.<br />
The reduction on national context is misleading, as Glick Schiller gave into discussion on anthropologi.info.<br />
The other african village cases serve this argument, moreover I found an article in Die Zeit from 2001 on a bbc gameshow called African Village,  where a british couple is put to live for a certain period in.. who wants to guess?<br />
Now how come these images are still alive. How are they transformed and intermediated through history. What <i>exactly</i> are the <i>present</i> representations of ethnocentrism?<br />
Being racist or not&#8211;it`s not that easy.</p>
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		<title>By: KerLeone</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>KerLeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parody? Take a look at this Oktoberfest in the Zoo of Detroit:

http://www.detroitzoo.org/visitor/visitor_event_detail_pages.asp?ID=247</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parody? Take a look at this Oktoberfest in the Zoo of Detroit:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.detroitzoo.org/visitor/visitor_event_detail_pages.asp?ID=247" rel="nofollow">http://www.detroitzoo.org/visitor/visitor_event_detail_pages.asp?ID=247</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tchibumba</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Tchibumba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;African Village&quot; issue in the Augsburg Zoo hits german mainstream media: http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/gesellschaft/0,1518,359755,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8220;African Village&#8221; issue in the Augsburg Zoo hits german mainstream media: <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/gesellschaft/0,1518,359755,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/gesellschaft/0,1518,359755,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: kotaji</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>kotaji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BBC has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4070816.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;good story&lt;/a&gt; on this today (don&#039;t know whether someone there reads Savage Minds).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBC has a <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4070816.stm" rel="nofollow">good story</a> on this today (don&#8217;t know whether someone there reads Savage Minds).</p>
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		<title>By: Norbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, the Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle opened the first part of its &quot;African Village&quot; to coincide with Black History Month in 2001. &quot;The village celebrates African culture and the country’s wildlife...the exhibit will immerse visitors in a representation of a rural village in East Africa. ...&quot; reads the press release, which lists appearances by various black artists as well as crafts, African dancing and music, storytelling and puppet performances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, the Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle opened the first part of its &#8220;African Village&#8221; to coincide with Black History Month in 2001. &#8220;The village celebrates African culture and the country’s wildlife&#8230;the exhibit will immerse visitors in a representation of a rural village in East Africa. &#8230;&#8221; reads the press release, which lists appearances by various black artists as well as crafts, African dancing and music, storytelling and puppet performances.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonely Donut Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lonely Donut Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 14:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not the time or place to comment on my concept of a living zoo in which humans are locked in a cage with their favorite pets and a flint knife and a water spigot and visitors pay admission to see the drama unfold and who will emerge from the cage after a few weeks time.</description>
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		<title>By: zephyrin_xirdal</title>
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		<dc:creator>zephyrin_xirdal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 14:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here I go again. First of all I am German, worse: Bavarian&#8212;so it is politically correct to bash my own tribe, I guess. And courteously I allow Rex to bash, too. If the payment is all right I even would don Lederhosen, of which I indeed own a pair, and have myself exhibited in the Las Vegas zoo. Given that Rex will serve as organisator and that Chris Kelty dons one of his colourful shirts and does the MC-ing of that show.

Anyway, the critique on Augsburg Zoo&#039;s plan is not fueled merely by so called politically correctness, but by a long story of thinking and reflecting about anthropology&#039;s past. And this reflection is grounded on a theoretical basis drawn not only from anthropology itself. I do not think that the staff at said Zoo is &quot;evil&quot;&#8212;but I think that they are somewhat naive and uninformed regarding the Voelkerschauen-issue. We fought a long way, especially over here in Munich, to get rid of the colonial-science image. And we haven&#039;t succeded fully yet. We have an interdisciplinary project on Voelkerschauen here in the house and now, more than ironically, literally next door they plan to restage such a thing. Augsburg is near Munich, The NS &quot;capital of the movement&quot;, and near Dachau ... And I am not the only one who will have those associations sooner or later. And sooner or later my very own institute, which is called &quot;Institut fuer Ethnologie und Afrikanistik&quot; will be part of associations, too. Hell, we have such a hard time delivering the folks a picture of Africa which is much closer to empirical reality than their exotistic and romantisizing fantasies. Africa is not all giraffes, lions, and some huts with happy silversmiths in between&#8212;but exactly such a picture is transmitted by projects like that of the Augsburg Zoo.

Since yesterday we try to contact the directress of the Zoo, now they faxed us more information and we will react. We have to react. Stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here I go again. First of all I am German, worse: Bavarian&mdash;so it is politically correct to bash my own tribe, I guess. And courteously I allow Rex to bash, too. If the payment is all right I even would don Lederhosen, of which I indeed own a pair, and have myself exhibited in the Las Vegas zoo. Given that Rex will serve as organisator and that Chris Kelty dons one of his colourful shirts and does the MC-ing of that show.</p>
<p>Anyway, the critique on Augsburg Zoo&#8217;s plan is not fueled merely by so called politically correctness, but by a long story of thinking and reflecting about anthropology&#8217;s past. And this reflection is grounded on a theoretical basis drawn not only from anthropology itself. I do not think that the staff at said Zoo is &#8220;evil&#8221;&mdash;but I think that they are somewhat naive and uninformed regarding the Voelkerschauen-issue. We fought a long way, especially over here in Munich, to get rid of the colonial-science image. And we haven&#8217;t succeded fully yet. We have an interdisciplinary project on Voelkerschauen here in the house and now, more than ironically, literally next door they plan to restage such a thing. Augsburg is near Munich, The NS &#8220;capital of the movement&#8221;, and near Dachau &#8230; And I am not the only one who will have those associations sooner or later. And sooner or later my very own institute, which is called &#8220;Institut fuer Ethnologie und Afrikanistik&#8221; will be part of associations, too. Hell, we have such a hard time delivering the folks a picture of Africa which is much closer to empirical reality than their exotistic and romantisizing fantasies. Africa is not all giraffes, lions, and some huts with happy silversmiths in between&mdash;but exactly such a picture is transmitted by projects like that of the Augsburg Zoo.</p>
<p>Since yesterday we try to contact the directress of the Zoo, now they faxed us more information and we will react. We have to react. Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 09:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go again. It is amazing to observe how &quot;human&quot; the commentors on this blog are --  making a fuss about this and that, and a zoo this time.

I believe that instead of criticizing African and other third world zoos and exposing the limits of a quickly-tempered politically correct activist-anthropology we should rather look at the positive effects that having Bavarians on display in third world zoological collections could provide.

Say for example this was an attempt to change the zoos of Africa from animal prisons into institutions where we can observe ourselves – homo sapiens sapiens. We love to watch other people, don’t we?

Let us stop fooling ourselves, not all of the commentors on this blog are as politically correct as they would want us to believe. And African-bashing in this blog is just another proof of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again. It is amazing to observe how &#8220;human&#8221; the commentors on this blog are &#8212;  making a fuss about this and that, and a zoo this time.</p>
<p>I believe that instead of criticizing African and other third world zoos and exposing the limits of a quickly-tempered politically correct activist-anthropology we should rather look at the positive effects that having Bavarians on display in third world zoological collections could provide.</p>
<p>Say for example this was an attempt to change the zoos of Africa from animal prisons into institutions where we can observe ourselves – homo sapiens sapiens. We love to watch other people, don’t we?</p>
<p>Let us stop fooling ourselves, not all of the commentors on this blog are as politically correct as they would want us to believe. And African-bashing in this blog is just another proof of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Politically_correct_anthropologist</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Politically_correct_anthropologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 07:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here we go again... it is amazing to observe how &quot;human&quot; anthropologists really are. We make fuss about this and that, and a zoo this time.
A zoo probably made a blunder in an old-fashioned way in a soo politically correct society. Nevertheless I believe that instead of wasting our energies in criticizing a zoo and exposing limits of the quick-tempered politically correct activist-anthropologists we should rather look at the positive effects that can be extracted from this case.  
Say for example this was an attempt to change zoos from animal prisons into institutions where we can observe ourselves - homo sapiens sapiens. We love to watch other people, don&#039;t we?
Let us stop fooling ourselves, we are not so politically correct as some among us would want us to believe. And German-bashing in this blog my fellow anthropologists is just another proof for that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here we go again&#8230; it is amazing to observe how &#8220;human&#8221; anthropologists really are. We make fuss about this and that, and a zoo this time.<br />
A zoo probably made a blunder in an old-fashioned way in a soo politically correct society. Nevertheless I believe that instead of wasting our energies in criticizing a zoo and exposing limits of the quick-tempered politically correct activist-anthropologists we should rather look at the positive effects that can be extracted from this case.<br />
Say for example this was an attempt to change zoos from animal prisons into institutions where we can observe ourselves &#8211; homo sapiens sapiens. We love to watch other people, don&#8217;t we?<br />
Let us stop fooling ourselves, we are not so politically correct as some among us would want us to believe. And German-bashing in this blog my fellow anthropologists is just another proof for that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zephyrin_xirdal</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>zephyrin_xirdal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2005 09:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex, Hasselhoff indeed spawns in Germany oftentimes! And, quite matching to the Lederhosen above, he appears on so-called folk-music programs on TV, like in the &quot;Musikantenstadel&quot;. Yes, the Knight Rider sings! Even in German! btw, I always thought &lt;a href=&quot;http://sonner.antville.org/stories/603750/#604374&quot; title=&quot;Vegas rant&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vegas was the biggest Europe-themepark&lt;/a&gt;&#8212;no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex, Hasselhoff indeed spawns in Germany oftentimes! And, quite matching to the Lederhosen above, he appears on so-called folk-music programs on TV, like in the &#8220;Musikantenstadel&#8221;. Yes, the Knight Rider sings! Even in German! btw, I always thought <a href="http://sonner.antville.org/stories/603750/#604374" title="Vegas rant" rel="nofollow">Vegas was the biggest Europe-themepark</a>&mdash;no?</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://savageminds.org/2005/05/27/bavarian-village-on-display-in-african-zoo/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 01:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that David Hasselhoff on the right?</description>
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		<title>By: tak</title>
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		<dc:creator>tak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 19:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parody is very funny indeed.  And thanks for reminding me of Bontoc Eulogy -- I might consider showing it in my undergrad class &quot;Culture and Identity.&quot;  I wanted to add that in Japan, stereotyping &quot;Europe&quot; is taken seriously (no parody here!) and is part of a huge theme park business.  The most infamous park, I would say, is &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.huistenbosch.co.jp/events/autumn/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Huis Ten Bosch&lt;/a&gt;, a Dutch theme park.  There are also others too: Spanish, English, German, Italian...the list goes on and on ad infinitum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parody is very funny indeed.  And thanks for reminding me of Bontoc Eulogy &#8212; I might consider showing it in my undergrad class &#8220;Culture and Identity.&#8221;  I wanted to add that in Japan, stereotyping &#8220;Europe&#8221; is taken seriously (no parody here!) and is part of a huge theme park business.  The most infamous park, I would say, is <a href="http://english.huistenbosch.co.jp/events/autumn/index.html" rel="nofollow">Huis Ten Bosch</a>, a Dutch theme park.  There are also others too: Spanish, English, German, Italian&#8230;the list goes on and on ad infinitum.</p>
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